我原本也是不信的，一个弹药库哪来的20亿美元弹药
但刚刚看了个视频，貌似昨晚乌克兰一个防空基地，爱国者导弹像火箭炮这样几分钟发出去几十发。。
一发500万美元，这就是1亿多美金没了。。
这么看起来，如果这个弹药库里都是些英美防空导弹之类的高档货，搞不准还真有可能上10亿美元。。
Namama 发表于 2023-05-16 17:06
爱国者导弹一年只能制造250个，已经是极限了，以前每年制造一百多个。
我怎么觉得这导弹没啥用啊，多发射一些一般的导弹，一下子把这些反导弹都用完了。而且感觉乌克兰城市里的大多军事目标可能都不值500万。
要不是换了李奇微，搞不好就真搞了。
xdsqc 发表于 2023-05-16 16:46
当时也是老毛子坚决反对。后来中苏翻脸，苏联也想核平中国，美国坚决反对。中国这个大肉包子谁看不顺眼的时候都想给吃掉。
太好了，哪怕一点点都很开心！
我有支持他们杀伤性无人机的捐助，在乌克兰境内叫angry birid... 纽约这边是Dignitas Ukraine Inc， mailing:
Dignitas
PO Box 150602
Brooklyn, NY 11215-0602
当时苏联是想对中国进行外科手术式的核打击，想要摧毁中国有限的核力量。当时的背景是中苏珍宝岛冲突之后没有多久，中苏关系非常紧张
林彪著名的一号命令就是当时因应苏联可能的核打击而发出的，中央高层领导都到全国各处疏散
深挖洞，广积粮，不称霸的口号也是那时候喊出来的
每一个有核国家其实都有一张核打击目标的地图，都是密密麻麻的，都是事先计算好的
这么重要的东西不可能临时再确定 😂
楼上说的这些都是郊区，都是农田地，一条战壕这种， 硬战还是城内的攻坚战，那才是重点。 农田战壕这种， 一个冲锋拿下，被一个反冲锋又夺回， 没什么实际意义，谁占着都是象征意义大过实际意义。要看有地堡有钢筋混凝土高楼的这种城市攻坚战。
ggings 发表于 2023-05-16 16:06
乌军冲过去算赢麻， 俄军反推回算no big deal, 就是这么任性
这个版上主流意见不是说巴克姆特整个城市都是nothing burger 么， 怎么郊区俩亩农田就兴奋宣布俄军兵败如山倒
大妈易满足体质？
最新的情况：部署在基辅的美国爱国者导弹防御系统被俄罗斯的高超音速导弹“匕首”给击中了。俄方的说法是彻底击毁了爱国者系统，美方的说法只是damage了系统，具体受损程度有待评估。
US assessing potential damage of Patriot missile defense system following Russian attack near Kyiv
From CNN's Natasha Bertrand
A US-made Patriot system was likely damaged, but not destroyed, as the result of a Russian missile barrage in and around Kyiv early Tuesday morning local time, a United States official tells CNN.
The US is still assessing the extent of the damage, the official said. That will determine whether the system needs to be pulled back entirely or simply repaired on the spot by the Ukrainians.
Russia’s Defense Ministry said on Tuesday in a post on Telegram that “a high-precision strike by the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system in the city of Kyiv hit a US-made Patriot anti-aircraft missile system.”
Ukrainian officials said on Tuesday that they successfully intercepted all six hypersonic missiles fired by the Russians, but the Ukrainian military declined to comment on the Russians’ claim that a Patriot system was hit.
“We cannot comment on this. We'll stay out of commenting on Russian sources,” Ukrainian air force spokesperson Serhiy Ihnat said.
Ukraine currently has two Patriot air defense systems in the country, one donated by the US and the other donated jointly by Germany and the Netherlands. It is unclear which of those systems was potentially damaged.
Some context: Russia has targeted the systems with hypersonic missiles before, US officials told CNN last week, including once on May 4. That attack failed, and Ukrainians successfully intercepted the missile before it could hit the Patriot, the officials said.
But US officials believe the Russians have been able to pick up on signals that are emitted from the Patriot, allowing them to target the system using the hypersonic missile, known as the Kinzhal or Killjoy.
blueskyt 发表于 2023-05-16 16:52
一个爱国者系统包含十几辆车，分散在好几平方公里范围内，怎么可能一次全部击毁
一个爱国者系统包含十几辆车，分散在好几平方公里范围内，怎么可能一次全部击毁
Moscow79 发表于 2023-05-16 20:07
乌克兰有两套Patriot system
其中一套因为导弹打光了受到损害
另外一套没有问题
乌克兰有两套Patriot system
其中一套因为导弹打光了受到损害
另外一套没有问题
mitbbs9 发表于 2023-05-16 23:13
但是两套系统距离非常远，不具有互补性。
一个爱国者系统包含十几辆车，分散在好几平方公里范围内，怎么可能一次全部击毁
Moscow79 发表于 2023-05-16 20:07
这个系统叫爱国者，肯定没什么用。
改个名字叫爱国贼，就厉害了。
到底了
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