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2021-08-30 15:24:12

医院拒收病人是不可能的,但是保险公司肯定可以做什么。

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2021-08-30 15:37:46

看看统计数据吧,事实上,绝大多数没打疫苗的人都活得好好的,或者得了新冠也恢复正常了。


所以,还是应该像对待感冒一样,疫苗自愿,带口罩自愿。


chengcheng 发表于 2021-08-30 14:58

你说的这个事实太明显了。。。本来大多数人得了就能自愈


然而我不care绝大多数 我只care住院进icu那拨


而且疫苗本来也没人强制啊 医院也不会真的拒收不打疫苗又得了covid的人的,不然就不是文明社会了。


但是打了疫苗的人也有vent的权利

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2021-08-30 15:42:26

这么说,以后大多数胖子几乎得任何疾病都应该排到队尾

加班睡眠不足,饮食不健康,抽烟喝酒,爬山滑雪出意外的人也是

这些都是明知山有虎偏向虎山行的典型

60岁得癌症很可能就因为40岁某天喝的一口酒

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2021-08-30 15:46:25

大家对这个疫苗到底有多不自信呀。

难道打了国家免费送你的疫苗不是已经占了便宜吗?为什么非要恶心不想占便宜打免费疫苗的人


bugmom 发表于 2021-08-30 15:19

嫌占的便宜不够多

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2021-08-30 15:54:58

这么说,以后大多数胖子几乎得任何疾病都应该排到队尾

加班睡眠不足,饮食不健康,抽烟喝酒,爬山滑雪出意外的人也是

这些都是明知山有虎偏向虎山行的典型

60岁得癌症很可能就因为40岁某天喝的一口酒


zhengxumaomao 发表于 2021-08-30 15:42

反疫苗人群里胖子可不少哈哈哈

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2021-08-30 16:01:56

其实谁care那些打不打疫苗的,但是就是因为有些人不打疫苗,感染了会传给没有疫苗可打的孩子,或者传给由于健康原因不能打疫苗的人。 不打疫苗能做好自己防护措施也没人指责你们,说的就是那些不打还作死害人的人。

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2021-08-30 16:02:49

请楼主这类人以后一定不要怂


打疫苗是你的自由,而且你自己也签了自愿声明,一旦出现疫苗相关长短期副作用疾病比如自免疫疾病一定要医疗费加倍且排在队伍最后


果小小 发表于 2021-08-30 12:56

哎,你这个逻辑。。。。。。是怎么歪到这个结论上的

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2021-08-30 16:04:58

虽然我很讨厌他们。

但是人家也买医保了,交税了,凭什么排在最后。


不过,可操作的是对他们提高医保费用。

这个很合理。因为他们的医疗风险比打疫苗的要高很多。


squirrel40 发表于 2021-08-30 12:56

多付保险费可以

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2021-08-30 16:07:06

因为主观原因不打新冠疫苗,完全可以,是你的自由;但是,得了新冠以后医疗费要加倍(比如,医疗保险费用上升,Delta航空公司已经开始这样了)并且排在等待治疗的队伍的最后(因为你是不听医嘱出的事情,医生当然更没有责任去治疗你


那打疫苗出事的人,当然应该大力赔偿、免费治疗、并且排在等待医疗队伍的最前面(因为你是遵医嘱出的事情,医生当然更有责任去优先治疗你)。


现在媒体已经开始讨论这个事了:


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/if-covid-vaccine-refusers-are-turned-away-hospitals-doctor-offices-ncna1277475


If Covid vaccine refusers are turned away at hospitals and doctor offices, is that ethical?

Taking vaccination status into account when deciding whether to treat a patient can be acceptable — sometimes.


Pediatricians, reacting to the acceleration of anti-vaccination campaigns during the last decade, often dismiss families that refuse vaccination.


when actions that cause anger and frustration do interfere with doctors’ ability to meet their obligations to provide safe and effective treatment, refusing services can be ethical. For example, taking vaccination status into account is ethical when it’s intended to protect health care staff members and patients and to select patients for scarce ICU beds who have the best chances for survival.


听得懂英文的,看看这位的血泪控诉


https://news.yahoo.com/man-chronicling-wifes-cancer-treatment-122930186.html


A man chronicling his wife''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s cancer treatment on TikTok went viral, saying she was ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''kicked out of hospital'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' because people ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''refusing'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' vaccines are taking up space

Charlotte Colombo

August 17, 2021·3 min read


Jason Arena has been chronicling his wife''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s cancer treatment on TikTok. Jason Arena/TikTok

A TikTok of a man criticizing people who aren''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t vaccinated and people who "don''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t think Covid exists" has gone viral, with the clip amassing 4 million views since being posted earlier this month.

The video was posted by TikTok user @speakthetruth101, whose username is Jason Arena, on Thursday August 5. In the clip, Arena says his wife, who is currently receiving treatment for stage 4 breast cancer, was discharged from hospital earlier than she should have been, saying, "there was no room left in the hospital because of Covid."

He suggested in the clip that "99%" of the people currently receiving treatment for Covid-19 at the hospital his wife was being treated in are unvaccinated. According to Arena''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s GoFundMe page, he and his wife are based in Moorseville, North Carolina - although he doesn''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t specify which hospital they are receiving treatment in. Data analysis by The New York Times suggests that 0.5% of patients needing hospital treatment for Covid-19 in North Carolina are fully vaccinated.

"I took my wife in to get some fluid drained as she was having some pain. She was in there for two days but honestly, she should have stayed there for maybe two more," Arena said in the TikTok.

He then went on to say that "on the third day instead of draining her fluid, they had to discharge her because they had no room left in the hospital."

Arena criticized people who are not vaccinated and those who are skeptical of the existence of the virus for "running to the hospital and putting everyone at risk."


特别可笑下面这样的回复,竟然是热门回复第一名。按照原文里面的逻辑,打疫苗出事的人,当然应该大力赔偿,免费治疗并且排在等待医疗队伍的最前面啊。为啥你会想到是排在最后呢?!这是什么神逻辑啊,你是不是看不懂我原文里面英文链接的意思?


果小小 发表于 2021-08-30 12:56

打疫苗是你的自由,而且你自己也签了自愿声明,一旦出现疫苗相关长短期副作用疾病比如自免疫疾病一定要医疗费加倍且排在队伍最后



dezhouren 发表于 2021-08-30 12:51

那个第一赞的回复的层主是什么人楼主你简单查一下就知道了,一直锲而不舍的反疫苗,也不知道是不是真的有钱拿...

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2021-08-30 16:08:25

同意提高保费,合情合理。

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