depends on the model and package.

We test drove a touring plus with ent/back camera last month. The dealer offered something around $34000 (otd)? Don't remember. Not a good deal at all. They seem want to get the deal with us and even the store manager stepped in. But that was our first stop for minivan shop. They caught that information and said they wanted to work with us for the pricing issue.

Check the http://www.fitzmall.com/
That's our local MD dealer. They carry lots of brands. According to my co-worker, this is a place you don't need to negociate a lot. They give a price, then that's it. That's their way doing business. My co-worker got a good deal on sienna two yrs ago from them.

I guess we can use their price as our guidance at least.  In MD, right now, it's about $8k off MSRP for T&C

Last month, our local Fitzmall offered $6k off MSRP on Routan. They don't carry T&C though.

yeah, that's what I told my lg. I need to see all the options before I am too heavy to move around. Once we make the decision, we can simply work on the budge and price.

The only complain about T&C is, the 3rd row is not comfortable compared to odessey (we haven't test sienna yet). The 3rd row is more like a bench, very hard and for some reason, the angel of seat is just not right for me. You will know what I mean once you test it.

I saw people post they got a Routan SE for 23000 (OTD). That's why I am thinking to get a Routan also..hehe

internet/email quote.

That strategy was not working well for our Jeep.

hughug! Relax! hehe