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Huaren
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为爱驰骋

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2013-07-18 17:43:00

为啥要来美国养老啊?美国不是老年人的好去处,光医疗这一项就把你们压死的,再说,老人离开了自己的生活圈子,会老的很快。呆呆的闷闷的每天连话都懒得讲。也没人跟他们讲。大部分时间只能跟老伴,保姆讲话。
Huaren
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牛奶白

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2013-07-18 17:46:00

以下是引用hebbe123在7/18/2013 5:38:00 PM的发言:
搜了一下medicare qualification。有兴趣的MM一块儿看看。

http://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Eligibility-and-Enrollment/OrigMedicarePartABEligEnrol/index.html?redirect=/origmedicarepartabeligenrol/01_overview.asp


studying,的确重重障碍,不缴税10年或者入籍,很多都很难办哇。每人每月600也不便宜啊,外面虽然更贵但是更好。

Huaren
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vickisha

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2013-07-18 17:48:00

在纽约可以申请低收入政府保险。我好几个同事父母都是这样拿的保险。基本全包,有些可能要个5块钱copay. 前提是移民过来有绿卡。
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risk

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2013-07-18 17:48:00

以下是引用hebbe123在7/18/2013 5:38:00 PM的发言:

从节选的这两段看,是不是持绿卡5年以上的老人,即使没有在美国工作缴税过,也可以自费买Medicare Part A,但前提条件是,必须也买Medicare Part B 。 如果不考虑非得享受免费的MEDICARE,而且象前面MM说的那样Medicare Part A+Medicare Part B 只要600多美金的话,那老人用国内的退休金还是可以支撑这里的保险premium的?

[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/18 17:38:03编辑过]

 


集够了点可以免 part A.


就是Part A贵啊。现在450一个月,一年5400,如果是两个老人的话,一年一万多。一直买到老人走。


 


集点便宜多了。

Huaren
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牛奶白

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2013-07-18 17:49:00

以下是引用为爱驰骋在7/18/2013 5:43:00 PM的发言:
为啥要来美国养老啊?美国不是老年人的好去处,光医疗这一项就把你们压死的,再说,老人离开了自己的生活圈子,会老的很快。呆呆的闷闷的每天连话都懒得讲。也没人跟他们讲。大部分时间只能跟老伴,保姆讲话。

其实考虑父母来美,并不是让他们还有老伴或者可以自理的时候过来,75岁以后玩不动了,还是要离子女近才好啊。

Huaren
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xmizi

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2013-07-18 17:49:00

以下是引用hebbe123在7/18/2013 5:38:00 PM的发言:
搜了一下medicare qualification。有兴趣的MM一块儿看看。 http://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Eligibility-and-Enrollment/OrigMedicarePartABEligEnrol/index.html?redirect=/origmedicarepartabeligenrol/01_overview.asp Medicare Part A ....A second group of aged individuals who are eligible for Part A are those persons age 65 or over who are not insured but elect to purchase Part A coverage by filing an application at a social security office. Because a monthly premium is required, this is called "Premium-Part A". ....persons desiring Premium-Part A can only file for coverage during a prescribed enrollment period (see the discussion under Medicare Part B) and must also enroll or already be enrolled in Part B. Medicare Part B ....A person age 65 or over who is not entitled to premium-free Part A must meet the following requirements to be entitled to Part B: he or she must be a U.S. resident and either a citizen, or an alien who has been lawfully admitted for permanent residence with 5 years continuous residence in this country at the time of filing. .... 从节选的这两段看,是不是持绿卡5年以上的老人,即使没有在美国工作缴税过,也可以自费买Medicare Part A,但前提条件是,必须也买Medicare Part B 。 如果不考虑非得享受免费的MEDICARE,而且象前面MM说的那样Medicare Part A+Medicare Part B 只要600多美金的话,那老人用国内的退休金还是可以支撑这里的保险premium的?

谢谢MM的链接,找到具体数字了


 


Part A: (Hospital Insurance) Premium




  • Most people get Part A automatically when they turn age 65. They don't have to pay a monthly payment called a premium for Part A because they or a spouse paid Medicare taxes while they were working.



  • You will need to pay $441.00 per month if you don’t get premium-free.



  • The Part A premium is $243.00 for those individuals having 30-39 quarters of Medicare covered employment.


Part B: (Medical Insurance) Premium



  • The standard Medicare Part B monthly premium will be $104.90 in 2013, which is a .5% increase over the 2012 premium.

If your income is above $85,000 (single) or $170,000 (married couple), then your Medicare Part B premium may be higher than $104.90 per month.

Huaren
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宜浓易淡

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2013-07-18 17:50:00

以下是引用hebbe123在7/18/2013 5:38:00 PM的发言:
搜了一下medicare qualification。有兴趣的MM一块儿看看。

http://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Eligibility-and-Enrollment/OrigMedicarePartABEligEnrol/index.html?redirect=/origmedicarepartabeligenrol/01_overview.asp

Medicare Part A ....A second group of aged individuals who are eligible for Part A are those persons age 65 or over who are not insured but elect to purchase Part A coverage by filing an application at a social security office. Because a monthly premium is required, this is called "Premium-Part A". ....persons desiring Premium-Part A can only file for coverage during a prescribed enrollment period (see the discussion under Medicare Part B) and must also enroll or already be enrolled in Part B.

Medicare Part B ....A person age 65 or over who is not entitled to premium-free Part A must meet the following requirements to be entitled to Part B: he or she must be a U.S. resident and either a citizen, or an alien who has been lawfully admitted for permanent residence with 5 years continuous residence in this country at the time of filing. ....

从节选的这两段看,是不是持绿卡5年以上的老人,即使没有在美国工作缴税过,也可以自费买Medicare Part A,但前提条件是,必须也买Medicare Part B 。 如果不考虑非得享受免费的MEDICARE,而且象前面MM说的那样Medicare Part A+Medicare Part B 只要600多美金的话,那老人用国内的退休金还是可以支撑这里的保险premium的?

[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/18 17:38:03编辑过]

其实如果光买medicare A+B的话,只要441+104,也就是555刀一个月就可以了。就算老人自己一点收入都没有,那2个老人也就1100多,还不如一个娃的Daycare贵。。。

所以医疗真的不是养老中最难解决的问题。。。


Huaren
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dolphina

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2013-07-18 17:52:00

才知道我爸66岁拿到绿卡也不能买medicare,还要过5年才能买,大家知道大多数商业保险比如blue cross不给65岁以上的人任何保险,也就是说有obamacare的政府补贴没保险能买有啥用
Huaren
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宜浓易淡

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2013-07-18 17:53:00

以下是引用牛奶白在7/18/2013 5:46:00 PM的发言:

studying,的确重重障碍,不缴税10年或者入籍,很多都很难办哇。每人每月600也不便宜啊,外面虽然更贵但是更好。

还好了,很多2个娃同时上Daycare的可贵多了。。。再说大部分老人多少都有点退休金的,然后再把国内的房子租掉,cover医保真心不难。。。
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Huaren
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risk

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2013-07-18 17:53:00

以下是引用宜浓易淡在7/18/2013 5:50:00 PM的发言:

其实如果光买medicare A+B的话,只要441+104,也就是555刀一个月就可以了。就算老人自己一点收入都没有,那2个老人也就1100多,还不如一个娃的Daycare贵。。。

所以医疗真的不是养老中最难解决的问题。。。



 


part A + B 是不包药的,part D 是perscription,


在加上out of pocket, 实际医疗支出要更多点。 


 


结论还是对头的。医疗是可以想办法的。

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