国防部长不是一个Military Postion是一个Civilian, 并且国防部长不负责打仗指挥军队,只决定要不要打,不负责怎么打。
并且从来没有说 国防部长需要将军才能担当,不管共和党民主党任命国防部长 Military 的RANK从来不是考虑的因素。
例如,奥巴马期间的国防部长
Leon Panetta First Lieutenant
Chuck Hagel Sergeant(根本都还不是军官,是Enlisted)
Ash Carter 根本就没有在Military混过
川普这个国防部长,就是故意选了在军中没有什么关系的, 就是军中反腐和革很多将军的职去的,你们要看清本质啊!
当年五角大楼给川普报价F35的价格, 川普问,你们讲价没有。 国防部长说,没有。 川普亲自打电话给,硬是把价格讲下好几个亿刀来!!!!!!
从此,他再也不信军中这些腐败垃圾了。现在的国防部长,就是军中和军火商的board高管来回任职,不革他们能行吗?
回复 1楼 清水小鱼 的帖子
国防部长不是一个Military Postion是一个Civilian, 并且国防部长不负责打仗指挥军队,只决定要不要打,不负责怎么打。
并且从来没有说 国防部长需要将军才能担当,不管共和党民主党任命国防部长 Military 的RANK从来不是考虑的因素。
例如,奥巴马期间的国防部长
Leon Panetta First Lieutenant
Chuck Hagel Sergeant(根本都还不是军官,是Enlisted)
Ash Carter 根本就没有在Military混过
你特么这也是严重误导,你看看人家这些文职之前都干了什么? 就以Ash Carter为例, 人家这什么履历,Fox评论员什么工作经历?一比,不就是垃圾么
Ashton Baldwin Carter (September 24, 1954 – October 24, 2022) was an American government official and academic who served as the 25th United States secretary of defense from February 2015 to January 2017. He later served as director of the Belfer Center for Science & International Affairs at Harvard Kennedy School.[3]
Carter began his career as a physicist. After a brief experience as an analyst for the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment, he switched careers to public policy. He joined the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 1984 and became chair of the International & Global Affairs faculty.[4] Carter served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy during President Clinton's first term, from 1993 to 1996, responsible for policy regarding the former Soviet states, strategic affairs, and nuclear weapons.
During President Obama's first term, he served first as Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics and then Deputy Secretary of Defense until December 2013. In February 2015, he replaced Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense and served until the end of the Obama administration.[5] During his tenure, he ended the ban of transgender officers in the military.
I pointed out that this is not related to military rank, nor does it imply military experience.
你特么这也是严重误导,你看看人家这些文职之前都干了什么? 就以Ash Carter为例, 人家这什么履历,Fox评论员什么工作经历?一比,不就是垃圾么
Ashton Baldwin Carter (September 24, 1954 – October 24, 2022) was an American government official and academic who served as the 25th United States secretary of defense from February 2015 to January 2017. He later served as director of the Belfer Center for Science & International Affairs at Harvard Kennedy School.[3]
Carter began his career as a physicist. After a brief experience as an analyst for the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment, he switched careers to public policy. He joined the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 1984 and became chair of the International & Global Affairs faculty.[4] Carter served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy during President Clinton's first term, from 1993 to 1996, responsible for policy regarding the former Soviet states, strategic affairs, and nuclear weapons.
During President Obama's first term, he served first as Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics and then Deputy Secretary of Defense until December 2013. In February 2015, he replaced Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense and served until the end of the Obama administration.[5] During his tenure, he ended the ban of transgender officers in the military.
你和Trump说这个?Trump自己当总统以前是干嘛的?
有啥可悲愤的。川普做啥事都不奇怪。对于川粉或川黑。都省点儿能量
你和Trump说这个?Trump自己当总统以前是干嘛的?
总统是一平民没关系,但是国防部、FDA、能源部、EPA 啥的这些机构不找专业对口的就太疯狂了
要理解国防部长这个位置,首先要知道几个基本的概念,
统帅权(supreme command),也就是谁是美国武装部队的总司令,法定的美国武装部队总司令是美国总统。统帅权握在文官的总统手中,不再会出现日本二战时期那样,军与国不分、国管不了军的的所谓统帅权干犯问题。
在总统的最高统帅权往下细分两条支线——军政体系,军令体系:
军政权力体系的链条是全部文官组成的总统、国防部长、军种部长(例如海军部长)再到各军种部队,这条体系负责军队的招募、任用、训练、管理和后勤;
军令权力体系的链条是文官和军官混合的,总统、国防部长、参谋长联席会议主席(军官)、联合作战司令部(军官组成)再到作战部队,这条体系负责军队的部署和作战。
这两个链条体系里,有一些人是没有任何指挥权的:军种部长例如海军部长不具有指挥任何部队的权力,此外参谋长联席会议主席虽然是全军职位最高的军官,但参联会主席同样没有指挥军队的权力。
简言之,美军在战争中直接指挥来自谁呢,最高军事决策来自总统和国防部长二人组,战场直接指挥决策来自于联合作战司令部的长官,作为军人的参联会主席在两个决策层之间起到沟通和建议的作用——一线部队对总统和国防部长的话语,需要通过参联会主席的口径送达。例如,海湾战争中,这个三个角色就是老布什总统、国防部长切尼,和联合作战司令部的长官施瓦茨科普夫将军。
既然最高军事决策来自于总统和国防部长二人组,你说这个角色的大军团军事指挥经历色彩重一点好呢,还是完全文官担任比较好呢?这个就是见仁见智了,彼时的国防部长切尼就没有从军的经历。
Look, even for Trump's standard this is an outlier. Even for the conservatives on Reddit there are 50% of comments are against this nomination.
这个资历的人怎么指挥五个军队部门统筹,协作;怎么干预国际争端,怎么下命令,怎么做预算,怎么管理核武器......一定会造成shadow leadership. 国防部不是教育部或者DOGE可以随便搞搞的。
我最担心军队会受不了要政变。
对关心爱美国的华人,无论支持谁,还是希望美国好的,这个人如果被Senate confirm了,真的就完了。今天Senate选leader,看看是不是还是听Trump的吧。
对于不了解这个人的背景的人,这些可以供你门参考:
- 2003本科毕业,做了一年finance 20024-2012服役共8年,注意他是国民警卫队,所谓最“低级”的军队分支,做到了少校,这个基本你不screw up都可以做到
- 2012从政,2016上了Trump的船,2014开始在Fox做主持人,走的是influencer/politics的路线,对Trump绝对忠诚
- 私生活没有评价,但他结了三次婚,6个孩子,和第三个老婆出轨,也算是ok吧但你想想愿不愿意自己孩子这样。
你还当真啊,这样的花花公子也就是个花瓶,花纳税人的钱养一批幕僚给他出主意,人家还真亲自干啊,人家忙着应付扑上来的小四小五小六七八呢。
回复 1楼 清水小鱼 的帖子
国防部长不是一个Military Postion是一个Civilian, 并且国防部长不负责打仗指挥军队,只决定要不要打,不负责怎么打。
并且从来没有说 国防部长需要将军才能担当,不管共和党民主党任命国防部长 Military 的RANK从来不是考虑的因素。
例如,奥巴马期间的国防部长
Leon Panetta First Lieutenant
Chuck Hagel Sergeant(根本都还不是军官,是Enlisted)
Ash Carter 根本就没有在Military混过
应该说总统是决定要不要打,不负责怎么打
各个联合作战司令部(Unified Combatant Command)不能决定要不要打,只负责怎么打
那国防部长的责任在哪?这里就有一个微妙的关系了,联合作战司令部虽然是军队机关,但它却直接隶属于国防部,联合作战司令部的长官直接对国防部长负责。
所以国防部长是横跨军政和军令两者的重臣,不能简单的作为文人被撇除在作战角色之外,因为战地的联合作战司令部必须听从、且只听从他的直接命令。
只能说,当国防部长缺少军事经历的时候,会更倚重参联会主席的建议,而当国防部长本身是高阶军官退役,他的自主意见更重要。
到底了
Hot Deals
All Deals