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Huaren
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Appleworm

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2016-06-07 19:29:42


越灌越说不清了,啥时候说过不同情受害人了。我从来没说过这女生有任何责任哈,穿的多少喝的多少都不是被强奸的理由,这事儿妥妥的男方的错,不要把我和另一位弄混哈。

我只是犯了圣母病嘴欠感慨了一下,如果男方平时真是一直都是个好孩子,只是因为酒精荷尔蒙上脑犯了错,自己这一辈子也毁成这样了,这惩罚也不轻呀。。。


词中有誓两心知 发表于 6/7/2016 6:38:48 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2024341&postid=71876260#71876260]

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那受害人呢?受害人没做错什么事情,一生都得背上这个心理阴影,你以为受害人看看心理医生就能恢复正常心理啦,那些被强奸后自杀的都有。。。
而且强奸犯得到惩罚不是应该的么? 没有惩罚就没有约束,没有强有力的惩罚,以后那些变态不就可以随便强奸女人了。。。
Huaren
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burnettyan

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2016-06-07 19:30:36

这个社会越来越不对了。。。。。。。。。。。
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xph

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2016-06-07 19:34:32

我说我的观点,你骂我干嘛?即使我说错了,你也不能骂我啊。我说错了,你觉得我错的离谱,你可以反驳我教育我,你骂我能解决什么问题呢?

Susanbabybaby 发表于 6/7/2016 5:28:38 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2024341&postid=71875665#71875665]

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泄愤啊 解决什么问题 看到这么脑残的回帖简直把一天的心情都搞坏了
Huaren
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xph

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2016-06-07 19:35:53


估计你要被喷的够呛。。。我也觉得,男的sacrifice了enrollment和star athletic career,这些难道都是唾手可得的吗?更何况男的并不是暴力犯罪,女的自己把自己喝的不省人事,这女的也有责任,男的要为自己的行为负责,女的的行为就要别人来负责吗?

Susanbabybaby 发表于 6/7/2016 5:37:12 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2024341&postid=71875735#71875735]

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怎么他为自己的行为负责就是牺牲啊 囧
Huaren
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黑白无常

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2016-06-07 19:36:59

又来一个。真想打开你们的脑袋看看啥脑回路
法庭这么多天辩论,这么多证据,判了有罪应该就是证据足够,确实是女方没知觉没同意的情况下性侵的。 我感兴趣的是为啥大家一边倒的觉得判六个月太少了?其实不管判几个月,这男的一辈子已经毁了。背着强奸犯的名声过一辈子,找工作找对象都没戏了吧?斯坦福的高材生,原来有多好的前景呀,现在落到这地步,就算只蹲六个月监狱,代价也是一辈子呀。 相对来说女方呢?美国这边多开放呀,自己心理上修复好了生活会有影响么?又不是中国印度这种保守的地方,男朋友,家人,朋友,不会因为这件事对她有任何看法吧? 我个人看法哈,不同意的别喷,咱好好讨论:关键是这男生的动机和平时的人品咋样。要是平常就欺负人比较渣,六个月确实判的太少了,不多蹲几年改不过来,以后还得害人。要是平常真是特别好的孩子,就是因为一次酒精影响被荷尔蒙控制了的话,现在付出的代价真心已经够多的了,出来以后应该不会再危害社会了,法律又不是为了报仇,对吧。
词中有誓两心知 发表于 6/7/2016 5:32:13 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2024341&postid=71875695#71875695]

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thegothamgal

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2016-06-07 19:41:01

NY mag 的文章 没有说我同意只是给大家看看这里说为什么只判6个月。 Why Brock Turner Only Got 6 Months in Jail for Sexually Assaulting an Unconscious Woman By Gabriella Paiella Follow Share Tweet Share Pin It Share Email Share Brock Turner's mugshot Photo: Courtesy of the Santa Clara County Sheriff In March, 20-year-old Stanford swimmer Brock Turner was convicted of three counts of felony sexual assault and found himself facing up to ten years in prison after he was discovered assaulting an unconscious and intoxicated woman behind a dumpster. But last Thursday, Judge Aaron Persky handed down a lenient sentence of six months in jail, saying, “A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him. I think he will not be a danger to others.” (Turner will also have to register as a sex offender.) Since then, there’s been a massive amount of public outcry over how this rape case played out, with many pointing to Turner’s privileged position as a white man and an all-American athlete at an elite university as one of the main reasons why he received such a light sentence. As to whether it was an unusually light sentence, Michelle Anderson, the dean of the City University of New York School of Law and a prolific scholar and specialist on the subject of rape law, told the Cut that “sexual assault cases not infrequently result in very lenient sentences. Often the sentence and the sense of culpability that people have is heavily influenced by the assessment of both the defendant and the victim in ways that are somewhat more acute in these kinds of cases than they are in non-sexual-assault cases.” “What I’ll say is that race and class often affect these kinds of cases, both at the guilt phase and at the sentencing phase,” Anderson added. “The fact that this defendant has been called a ‘star athlete’ or an ‘all-American’ swimmer repeatedly in the media reflects the importance that many people place on the fact that he was a student, an athlete, and someone who went to a prestigious institution.” That this was a campus rape was also likely influential on the sentencing. Anderson points to what she calls the “he had a bright future argument” that’s often prevalent when attempting to prosecute student rapists — an argument that often makes it more difficult to do so. “Our perception of the gravity of the offense and therefore the appropriate punishment varies often with the sympathy people have for the defendant. And often that sympathy or lack of sympathy is based on constructs: the assumption that rape happens between strangers, the assumption that it happens with defendants who are uneducated, that there are weapons present, and that the victim fights back at the maximum amount of her capacity,” Anderson says. “All of these are stereotypes we have, social constructs that we have about what rape looks like. And when something violates those social constructs, people tend to be more suspicious about the gravity of the offense or if it even occurred. And if it did occur, how and if it should be punished.” The presence of alcohol and drugs tend to make the sentencing even more difficult in these cases, said Gloria Allred, a discrimination attorney who’s been practicing for more than 40 years and has worked on some of the most high-profile sexual-assault cases in America, including representing many of the women who accused Bill Cosby of sexual assault. “Often it’s treated as though, well, she was intoxicated, he was intoxicated, so that’s kind of equal conduct in the sentence,” she said. “That’s not fair, that’s not right, that’s not the law because if a victim is incapacitated she cannot consent.” There is currently a petition circulating to get Judge Persky removed from the bench, though Anderson says, “Realistically, there is very little to no chance that the judge will recuse or that this case will be resentenced.” Allred expressed a similar sentiment, saying, “It’s very rare for a judge to be recalled. All I can say is that people can express their feelings at the ballot box.” Whether the outcry over this case symbolizes a turning point in how campus sexual assaults are prosecuted has yet to be seen. But, Allred said, "I think that the victim herself has accomplished a great deal and really should be commended for what appeared to be a very honest and a very powerful and a very moving victim impact statement which really helped many people to understand what it’s like to have to suffer the kind of sexual assault that she did. I think she’s done a great service to the community to have been very courageous and to have put forth what happened to her in such powerful detail."
Huaren
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黑白无常

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2016-06-07 19:46:22

不止两个啊。一帮奇葩
这帖子那两个为罪犯说话的比这个法官还让人愤怒啊。
anniekevin 发表于 6/7/2016 5:49:20 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2024341&postid=71875851#71875851]

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毒黓

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2016-06-07 19:51:41

Re!我觉得争议之处不是有没有构成强奸,而是对实际强奸的轻判。
这件事情令人气愤的是明明已经强奸罪名成立,法官居然因为这个高才生前途而只判6个月。那么诺贝尔得奖人是否杀人也不需要收到惩罚。这简直是神逻辑了。一码归一码,强奸罪和他的前途有什么关系,一家都是三观不正。 yukifangfang 发表于 6/7/2016 4:54:00 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=71875428&postid=71875428#71875428]

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vian729

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2016-06-07 19:52:13

令人发指
hejie12345 发表于 6/7/2016 2:04:54 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2024341&postid=71873551#71873551]

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其实最不可思议的是男生父亲得发言,什么只有20分钟的事情却毁了他儿子,他怎么不想想如果是他女儿让人给强奸了,他还是这么说嘛?
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馒头的老婆

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2016-06-07 19:53:07

无语了,有时候真希望有Dexter和Daredevil这样的人存在。
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