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回复 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868353#68868353]617楼luckyso的帖子[/url]
How can you approve their actual plan is to give birth here? You cannot. It is like F1 applicants, when the VO asks you if you would come back to your original country, after you finish your program, I guess 100% will answer "yes". Some will be back, some will not. Can I say those did not come back has committed a visa violation by mispresenting a false claim/statement, while applying the visa? And don't kid yourself that all F1 applicants' original plan are coming back to their original country, after they finish their program. We all know the truth, don't we?
Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/25/2015 3:11:06 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868379#68868379]
Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/25/2015 3:11:06 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868379#68868379]
There is a clear distinction in F1's case. The key is that you can't be proven lying AT the time of visa interview. F1 could always argue they did plan to come back at the time of the interview, but several years later when they get their degree things change so they change their plan, blablah... The same can't be argued in birth center's case due to the fact those ladies knew about their prenancy and contacted birth center already at the time of the interview.
回复 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868403#68868403]620楼urthur的帖子[/url]
Well, you said it all, a person is innocent until proven guilty. I followed the case a bit, the feds was to charge the birth center with Tax Fraud, that said, they did not have legal ground to charge those women directly. Then, unfortunately, they fled and caught the flak.
And frankly speaking, I was not defending anything, all I did was trying to put my own feet into other ppl's shoes. Am I trying to prove that , one day, I might be as" vulnerable" as those ppl? Maybe. I have been living here for almost two decades, I was used to be so naive to think that I could be equal to the whites, well, lesson learned. You may call me too sensitive, but all I can say is "the winter is coming".
回复 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868441#68868441]621楼luckyso的帖子[/url]
Well, I am not trying to be ridiculous here, but obviously, when you talked about those women, you are applying double standards on them, and your points are full of bias.
First, I already cited the immigration law that being pregnant is not a base to deny an visa application. Second, contacting birth center, prior to interview, is hard to approve that they are trying to mispresent the reasons for requiring an visa. Don't you think it is logical that a pregnant woman will be on her way to have a tour, she contacts a local birth center, whom does not only speak her language, but also does it provide all necessary services to protect her and the unborn baby, if an unexpected labor would accur? To me, it makes sense.
回复 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868441#68868441]621楼luckyso的帖子[/url]
Well, I am not trying to be ridiculous here, but obviously, when you talked about those women, you are applying double standards on them, and your points are full of bias.
First, I already cited the immigration law that being pregnant is not a base to deny an visa application. Second, contacting birth center, prior to interview, is hard to approve that they are trying to mispresent the reasons for requiring an visa. Don't you think it is logical that a pregnant woman will be on her way to have a tour, she contacts a local birth center, whom does not only speak her language, but also does it provide all necessary services to protect her and the unborn baby, if an unexpected labor would accur? To me, it makes sense.
Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/25/2015 4:05:20 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868498#68868498]
Well, I am not trying to be ridiculous here, but obviously, when you talked about those women, you are applying double standards on them, and your points are full of bias.
First, I already cited the immigration law that being pregnant is not a base to deny an visa application. Second, contacting birth center, prior to interview, is hard to approve that they are trying to mispresent the reasons for requiring an visa. Don't you think it is logical that a pregnant woman will be on her way to have a tour, she contacts a local birth center, whom does not only speak her language, but also does it provide all necessary services to protect her and the unborn baby, if an unexpected labor would accur? To me, it makes sense.
Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/25/2015 4:05:20 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868498#68868498]
It doesn't make sense at all.
Normal women will stay at her own place/home waiting for their babies to be born, rather than to travel/tour overseas especially during the last term of pregnancy and to contact a birth center ahead of time.
What's the rush to tour a place during pregnancy? Shouldn't they rest as much as possible for the good sake of the babies?
Don't you think the conspiracy is too obvious?
回复 [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868040#68868040]603楼urthur的帖子[/url]
But Trump's campaign manager thinks otherwise.
[url=http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/23/sotu-corey-lewandowski-full-interview.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/]http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/23/sotu-corey-lewandowski-full-interview.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/[/url]
Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/25/2015 1:37:47 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868056#68868056]
But Trump's campaign manager thinks otherwise.
[url=http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/23/sotu-corey-lewandowski-full-interview.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/]http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/23/sotu-corey-lewandowski-full-interview.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/[/url]
Y_U_SHOOTME 发表于 8/25/2015 1:37:47 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868056#68868056]
Trump's manager said nothing about they were not against Asian anchor babies, because they treat all illegal immigrants the same, and that's the way it should be, regardless the race.
好吧，大家都知道不能选布什了。
TRUMP明显比他聪明多了. anchor baby是他先提出来的，就算被批不pc人家从来都不backdown,
布什一被批，就软了，还用亚洲人来做挡箭牌来kiss latino的ass， 又软弱又笨拙
有人评论说：When someone takes him aside and points out that he has now pissed off the Asian community he gets frustrated and starts hitting him self on the head going "Stupid!!! stupid stupid stupid!"
这个Jeb我现在越来越烦了，感觉他的智商不比他哥哥高
luckyso 发表于 8/25/2015 1:15:59 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68867920#68867920]
Bush是不是嫌自己给自己挖的坑还不够深？来，来，来，大家帮忙往他身上泼些土。
Trump is drawing the line between legal and illegal, Jeb is drawing the line by race - that's what liberals do.
luckyso 发表于 8/25/2015 2:31:20 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868280#68868280]
luckyso 发表于 8/25/2015 2:31:20 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68868280#68868280]
That's a gross misrepresentation on your part. The liberals are not drawing any lines.
Bush是不是嫌自己给自己挖的坑还不够深？来，来，来，大家帮忙往他身上泼些土。
BlueNDGold 发表于 8/25/2015 10:52:52 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68869980#68869980]
Ya! Not only Jeb Bush is stupid, but also a wuss!
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That's a gross misrepresentation on your part. The liberals are not drawing any lines.
BlueNDGold 发表于 8/25/2015 10:56:31 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68870010#68870010]
BlueNDGold 发表于 8/25/2015 10:56:31 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1868851&postid=68870010#68870010]
That's what they do best, when there is officer involved shooting, they first check if the person shot is black & shooter is non-black, if yes, they immediately call that discrimination and it's all over the news and protest/riot is justified no matter what actually caused the shooting. If the shooter is black and/or the person shot in any other color, they ignore it, just like that 9-year black girl in Ferguson. At least that's what's happening under Obama. They look at your color first to decide where they stand.
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