就是强盗烧毁犯罪证据。有些人为争眼球连脸都不要了。
义和团就是拳匪,首领好多都是土匪流氓,他们不仅杀洋人,还大量滥杀无辜百姓,烧西药房,拆铁道,推电线杆,大肆破坏火车轮船等西方先进科技,愚蠢野蛮,就是百年前的六毛和自干五。同时慈禧还向西方11国发宣战诏书,从上到下都不知世界之大,从上到下都不知自己几斤几两。这种围攻炮轰外国大使馆的事件,匪夷所思,可笑的是集数万之众还快两月都攻不下来,这就尴尬了。对于这种愚蠢暴扈野蛮狂妄之徒,反击給他们点教训是应该的。
mannbo 发表于 11/4/2018 1:04:11 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2354398&postid=78970874#78970874][/url]
来看看当时有良知的美国人是怎么看你眼里的拳匪和义和团哒。
Address at a meeting of the Berkeley Lyceum, New York, 1900
I don’t suppose that I am called here as an expert on education, for that would show a lack of foresight on your part and a deliberate intention to remind me of my shortcomings.
As I sat here looking around for an idea it struck me that I was called for two reasons. One was to do good to me, a poor unfortunate traveler on the world’s wide ocean, by giving me a knowledge of the nature and scope of your society and letting me know that others beside myself have been of some use in the world. The other reason that I can see is that you have called me to show by way of contrast what education can accomplish if administered in the right sort of doses.
Your worthy president said that the school pictures, which have received the admiration of the world at the Paris Exposition, have been sent to Russia, and this was a compliment from that Government – which is very surprising to me. Why, it is only an hour since I read a cablegram in the newspapers beginning “Russia Proposes to Retrench.” I was not expecting such a thunderbolt, and I thought what a happy thing it will be for Russians when the retrenchment will bring home the thirty thousand Russian troops now in Manchuria, to live in peaceful pursuits. I thought this was what Germany should do also without delay, and that France and all the other nations in China should follow suit.
Why should not China be free from the foreigners, who are only making trouble on her soil? If they would only all go home, what a pleasant place China would be for the Chinese! We do not allow Chinamen to come here, and I say in all seriousness that it would be a graceful thing to let China decide who shall go there.
China never wanted foreigners any more than foreigners wanted Chinamen, and on this question I am with the Boxers every time. The Boxer is a patriot. He loves his country better than he does the countries of other people. I wish him success. The Boxer believes in driving us out of his country. I am a Boxer too, for I believe in driving him out of our country.
When I read the Russian despatch further my dream of world peace vanished. It said that the vast expense of maintaining the army had made it necessary to retrench, and so the Government had decided that to support the army it would be necessary to withdraw the appropriation from the public schools. This is a monstrous idea to us. We believe that out of the public school grows the greatness of a nation.
It is curious to reflect how history repeats itself the world over. Why, I remember the same thing was done when I was a boy on the Mississippi River. There was a proposition in a township there to discontinue public schools because they were too expensive. An old farmer spoke up and said if they stopped the schools they would not save anything, because every time a school was closed a jail had to be built.
It’s like feeding a dog on his own tail. He’ll never get fat. I believe it is better to support schools than jails.
The work of your association is better and shows more wisdom than the Czar of Russia and all his people. This is not much of a compliment, but it’s the best I’ve got in stock.
-Mark Twain
来看看当时有良知的美国人是怎么看你眼里的拳匪和义和团哒。
Address at a meeting of the Berkeley Lyceum, New York, 1900
I don’t suppose that I am called here as an expert on education, for that would show a lack of foresight on your part and a deliberate intention to remind me of my shortcomings.
As I sat here looking around for an idea it struck me that I was called for two reasons. One was to do good to me, a poor unfortunate traveler on the world’s wide ocean, by giving me a knowledge of the nature and scope of your society and letting me know that others beside myself have been of some use in the world. The other reason that I can see is that you have called me to show by way of contrast what education can accomplish if administered in the right sort of doses.
Your worthy president said that the school pictures, which have received the admiration of the world at the Paris Exposition, have been sent to Russia, and this was a compliment from that Government – which is very surprising to me. Why, it is only an hour since I read a cablegram in the newspapers beginning “Russia Proposes to Retrench.” I was not expecting such a thunderbolt, and I thought what a happy thing it will be for Russians when the retrenchment will bring home the thirty thousand Russian troops now in Manchuria, to live in peaceful pursuits. I thought this was what Germany should do also without delay, and that France and all the other nations in China should follow suit.
Why should not China be free from the foreigners, who are only making trouble on her soil? If they would only all go home, what a pleasant place China would be for the Chinese! We do not allow Chinamen to come here, and I say in all seriousness that it would be a graceful thing to let China decide who shall go there.
China never wanted foreigners any more than foreigners wanted Chinamen, and on this question I am with the Boxers every time. The Boxer is a patriot. He loves his country better than he does the countries of other people. I wish him success. The Boxer believes in driving us out of his country. I am a Boxer too, for I believe in driving him out of our country.
When I read the Russian despatch further my dream of world peace vanished. It said that the vast expense of maintaining the army had made it necessary to retrench, and so the Government had decided that to support the army it would be necessary to withdraw the appropriation from the public schools. This is a monstrous idea to us. We believe that out of the public school grows the greatness of a nation.
It is curious to reflect how history repeats itself the world over. Why, I remember the same thing was done when I was a boy on the Mississippi River. There was a proposition in a township there to discontinue public schools because they were too expensive. An old farmer spoke up and said if they stopped the schools they would not save anything, because every time a school was closed a jail had to be built.
It’s like feeding a dog on his own tail. He’ll never get fat. I believe it is better to support schools than jails.
The work of your association is better and shows more wisdom than the Czar of Russia and all his people. This is not much of a compliment, but it’s the best I’ve got in stock.
-Mark Twain
Mintcafe 发表于 11/4/2018 8:25:46 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2354398&postid=78973853#78973853][/url]
一个人的声音能代表世界主流声音?历史盲要多学习历史知识,实在找不到好的方法维基百科看看维基百科吧,你不会以为维基百科和你们的百度百科是一路货色吧?
义和团杀人不是因为认为洋人吃小孩那么简单,义和团其实就是本土百姓对于外来殖民主义者一再忍耐后爆发的反抗。中国百姓其实是天下最能忍耐的民族了,中国也一直是对宗教极度宽容的国家,连他们都忍不下了,当时的情况可想而知啊。。。美军有上千个军人在中国的领土和中国人作战,这就和军纪良好的皇军在中国一样,军纪再好也洗不白,最多就是五十步笑百步了。另外你确定他们没参加嘛? 那怎么解释美国国内那段时间的巨量中国文物?他们的统帅Chaffee确实有禁止过烧杀抢,但是根本没用,我读过几个当时美国人自己的记载,他们可全都是整车整车的抢,整船整船的运,每天笑歪了嘴啊。。。
就讲一条,拳匪杀洋人传教士。洋人传教是有条约保护的。为啥要条约保护?因为皇上以前不让。洋人有枪,打疼了皇上,逼他同意让洋人传教。所以,拳匪杀教士,违背条约义务。
你说条约不平等。对,它是不平等。但是,没有洋枪逼着,皇上根本不买账。他只认拳头。只能打疼了他,皇上才能认输。
为啥洋人一定要在中国传教?因为他们就是可以。这叫 信仰自由,结社自由。 又叫 普世价值。
所以,根本上,洋人和满清的冲突就是现代文明和野蛮的冲突。是,称自己的皇上为野蛮是很难接受。不过,就是那样的。要不,后面会有那么多中国人要引进德,赛先生?因为中国没有这个。你没有这些,你不就是一野蛮人吗?
看今天,两百年后,土工还不是没有信仰自由,结社自由。做的好多是,跟以前的皇上差不多,所以,就现在,在相当程度上,也还是个野蛮国家。剪了辩子没用的。
meanGirl 发表于 11/4/2018 12:28:25 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2354398&postid=78970650#78970650][/url]
信仰自由结社自由,同时也有不信仰不结社的自由,用拳头揍你逼你打开你家门给我传教,这在任何时空社会都叫做野蛮,你对普世价值好像有点误解了,对野蛮和文明好像也不是拎得很清。
自己输入“义和团”搜维基百科啊,历史盲你高中历史不及格么?
文明世界的主流声音总比你专制国家的愚民历史客观吧?你专制国家的近代史那叫宣传不叫历史
不然怎么会有反日游行变成U型锁杂自己同胞的蠢事发生?日本人都笑死了,你们这些不就是当地义和团么?最后还要被朝廷剿灭,U型锁砸同胞的不一样被政府给判了么?
都2018年了中国怎么还有像你这样愚昧的国民啊?你配做中国人么?你拉低了整个中华民族的智商你知道么?
来吧看看北京顶尖重点高中北京四中(国家领导子女上的学校)老师给你讲的义和团的历史课吧,北京四中这种级别的高中像你们这种奴才是一辈子都进不去的
[url=https://youtu.be/jGv8-I7ATJw]https://youtu.be/jGv8-I7ATJw[/url]
插句嘴,Pence 上个月的演讲,确实厉害。有些时候,洋人你不能不服。人家鲁迅比我们读的还熟。
The great Chinese storyteller Lu Xun often lamented that his country, and he wrote, “has either looked down at foreigners as brutes, or up to them as saints,” but never “as equals.”
你这句话,就是Pence 他演讲的完美注解。
meanGirl 发表于 11/4/2018 1:26:25 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2354398&postid=78971030#78971030][/url]
他引用错了,鲁迅时代太早了,经过共产党的洗礼现在的中国早不是原先的中国了,现在的外国人都被叫做外国友人。。。LOL,给他作参谋的人大概对中国不是很了解吧。
自己输入“义和团”搜维基百科啊,历史盲你高中历史不及格么?
文明世界的主流声音总比你专制国家的愚民历史客观吧?你专制国家的近代史那叫宣传不叫历史
不然怎么会有反日游行变成U型锁杂自己同胞的蠢事发生?日本人都笑死了,你们这些不就是当地义和团么?最后还要被朝廷剿灭,U型锁砸同胞的不一样被政府给判了么?
都2018年了中国怎么还有像你这样愚昧的国民啊?你配做中国人么?你拉低了整个中华民族的智商你知道么?
Williamviktor 发表于 11/4/2018 9:02:47 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2354398&postid=78974224#78974224][/url]
我帮你抓下来吧,你要是看的懂英文就自己看看,如果你认为维基百科就是权威。。。LOL
The Boxer Rebellion (拳亂), Boxer Uprising, or Yihetuan Movement (義和團運動) was an anti-foreign, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-colonial]anti-colonial[/url], and [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Christian_movement]anti-Christian[/url] uprising that took place in [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China]China[/url] between 1899 and 1901, toward the end of the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty]Qing dynasty[/url]. They were motivated by proto-[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_nationalism]nationalist[/url] sentiments and by opposition to [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world]Western[/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism]colonialism[/url] and the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_missions_in_China]Christian missionary activity[/url] that was associated with it.
我帮你抓下来吧,你要是看的懂英文就自己看看,如果你认为维基百科就是权威。。。LOL
The Boxer Rebellion (拳亂), Boxer Uprising, or Yihetuan Movement (義和團運動) was an anti-foreign, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-colonial]anti-colonial[/url], and [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Christian_movement]anti-Christian[/url] uprising that took place in [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China]China[/url] between 1899 and 1901, toward the end of the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty]Qing dynasty[/url]. They were motivated by proto-[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_nationalism]nationalist[/url] sentiments and by opposition to [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world]Western[/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism]colonialism[/url] and the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_missions_in_China]Christian missionary activity[/url] that was associated with it.
Mintcafe 发表于 11/4/2018 9:10:11 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2354398&postid=78974306#78974306][/url]
文明世界的主流声音总比你专制国家的愚民历史客观吧?你专制国家的近代史那叫宣传不叫历史
不然怎么会有反日游行变成U型锁杂自己同胞的蠢事发生?日本人都笑死了,你们这些不就是当地义和团么?最后还要被朝廷剿灭,U型锁砸同胞的不一样被政府给判了么?
都2018年了中国怎么还有像你这样愚昧的国民啊?你配做中国人么?你拉低了整个中华民族的智商你知道么?
来吧看看北京顶尖重点高中北京四中(国家领导子女上的学校)老师给你讲的义和团的历史课吧,北京四中这种级别的高中像你们这种奴才是一辈子都进不去的
[url=https://youtu.be/jGv8-I7ATJw]https://youtu.be/jGv8-I7ATJw[/url]
到底了
Hot Deals
All Deals