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我转的小肥羊!!!!!!!!!!!
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2010-03-03 15:52:00
ft,在家雪藏小肥羊已达两年的华丽飘过
其实如果那个买家不是那么咬文嚼字的发大字报,故意引导舆论去说是卖家刮的什么的,卖家可能就地给解决了
如果卖家一句话不说就退钱还是什么的,搞的好象买家说的什么刮日期是真事一样,我想卖家火了的原因就在此吧
换班不能跟恶霸学,恶霸单纯保护买家都保护的没治了。
其实如果那个买家不是那么咬文嚼字的发大字报,故意引导舆论去说是卖家刮的什么的,卖家可能就地给解决了
如果卖家一句话不说就退钱还是什么的,搞的好象买家说的什么刮日期是真事一样,我想卖家火了的原因就在此吧
换班不能跟恶霸学,恶霸单纯保护买家都保护的没治了。
以下是引用lizhing在3/3/2010 3:51:00 PM的发言:
我反正是很害怕老是恶意揣测别人的人。
收到没有过期日东西,挑剔一点不高兴也可以理解,两人沟通一下就好了。非要去揣测人家是故意刮掉来骗人,然后来贴大字报,举出种种猜测想法,目的就是要证明卖家不嫌麻烦千里迢迢骗她几包汤料,这种人不可怕么?
还有一个,买了个白菜大靴子对condition不满意,又来贴大字报,非说别人低买高卖,还来个猜测SA给了打折等等,说的有鼻子有眼的。
总之这类人都是很恐怖的....
我觉得有的人(不是本帖当事人,也不是什么靴子当事人)可能有想出热闹的心理。反正买家又不麻烦,嚷嚷一阵,就一个高楼开始了。我们旁观者有时候不也有阴暗的喜欢看出事了集体微观的嘛。自从那个什么包,搞的跟福尔摩斯一样,仿佛这种什么“猜测”“怀疑”就成了流行了。我反正是很害怕老是恶意揣测别人的人。
收到没有过期日东西,挑剔一点不高兴也可以理解,两人沟通一下就好了。非要去揣测人家是故意刮掉来骗人,然后来贴大字报,举出种种猜测想法,目的就是要证明卖家不嫌麻烦千里迢迢骗她几包汤料,这种人不可怕么?
还有一个,买了个白菜大靴子对condition不满意,又来贴大字报,非说别人低买高卖,还来个猜测SA给了打折等等,说的有鼻子有眼的。
总之这类人都是很恐怖的....
以下是引用bannie在3/3/2010 3:52:00 PM的发言:
其实这事本来卖家是理亏的,本来好好能解决的,但是买家非要把这个舆论导成这样子,让人家卖家吃了亏(自己买到没保质期的东西也是吃亏吧,还浪费这么多去邮局什么的effort)还要被人家扇不明不白的一巴掌。。。。。second this
以下是引用linglituo在3/3/2010 4:00:00 PM的发言:
84年生产的,吃的不是食品,吃的是怀旧。。。这点好象不对,我在美国店也买过过期的食品,不过吃掉了才发现。
记得以前有个电视采访,有人投诉买到过期食品,而那主持人还吃了来证明吃了过期食品没事。
这个是我在MITBBS上看到的。去年MIT上有个超长贴子讨论这个问题的,当时有人说买到中国店84年的生产日期的食品,还有人买到95年的生产日期的。
以下是引用说你傻你就傻在3/3/2010 4:05:00 PM的发言:
只要是在美国的中国店,就是基本要求,你不要求是你个人的选择,但不影响别人有这个权利
GOVERNMENT GUIDELINES. What does the government say? The Food & Drug Administration, which regulates packaged foods and drugs, only requires a use-by, or expiration, date on infant formula. That's because formula must contain a certain quantity of each nutrient that is described on the label. And if formula is stored too long, it loses its nutritional quality, and also separates or form lumps that will clog the bottle nipple.
The Agriculture Dept., which regulates fresh
produce and meats, only requires labeling of the date when poultry is
packed at the farm. However, many manufacturers are allowed to also add
sell-by or use-by dates. "Grocery stores that grind their own meat can
add their own package labels," says USDA spokesman Steve Cohen.
In
fact, both the FDA and the USDA have a pretty laissez-faire attitude
when it comes to food shelf-life labeling. That's not because they are
not concerned for people's health. Mark Harrison, professor of food
science at the University of Georgia, points out that most of these
dates are not an indicator of safety, rather of quality. "Some foods
spoil if not refrigerated quickly enough—but they won't kill you," says
Harrison.
link:http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/oct2006/db20061002_959305.htm再给转一个:
With exception of certain poultry, baby food products and formulas most all other food product expiration dates are not required by federal law but are voluntarily provided by food manufacturers. This does vary from state to state and many states legislate sell-by dates for perishable foods. According to several sources including the USDA there are 20 states that require some mandatory labeling for dairy products. So far we know that Arizona, California, Ohio, and New York have some labeling laws. (Read about California's milk labeling law)
Dates Are Guidelines
On the most part dates are provided as guidelines for both product sellers and the buying public. Most dates are NOT expiration dates; you are not going to get sick because you eat something past its "best by" date. Some dates have become marketing devices for product manufactures. A good example of this are dates that are appearing on soft drinks. There really is not much to expire with a beverage made of water, sugar, and artificial coloring. This is one of those cases where the manufacturer appears to just be encouraging you to throw it out and buy more.
About The Law
Most Dates Are VoluntaryWith exception of certain poultry, baby food products and formulas most all other food product expiration dates are not required by federal law but are voluntarily provided by food manufacturers. This does vary from state to state and many states legislate sell-by dates for perishable foods. According to several sources including the USDA there are 20 states that require some mandatory labeling for dairy products. So far we know that Arizona, California, Ohio, and New York have some labeling laws. (Read about California's milk labeling law)
Dates Are Guidelines
On the most part dates are provided as guidelines for both product sellers and the buying public. Most dates are NOT expiration dates; you are not going to get sick because you eat something past its "best by" date. Some dates have become marketing devices for product manufactures. A good example of this are dates that are appearing on soft drinks. There really is not much to expire with a beverage made of water, sugar, and artificial coloring. This is one of those cases where the manufacturer appears to just be encouraging you to throw it out and buy more.
如果非要说美国法律的话,前面傻mm(叫着很别扭啊)一口一个美国的中国店,以上可以供您参考
因此转让没有生产日期,只能是不被卖家prefer,但不违反法律。所以卖家在法律上似乎都没有什么过失。查生产日期,作为一个guideline,是人们习惯参考的一个标准而已,除了几类食品意外,FDA 并没有强硬要求。
唯一卖家可能出错的地方是:她说有生产日期,而买家收到上面没有,此为”售出物品与描述不符“,而看样子买家mm当时急于购买,也没有询问此方面问题,卖家也没有主动对生产日期进行任何描述
因此转让没有生产日期,只能是不被卖家prefer,但不违反法律。所以卖家在法律上似乎都没有什么过失。查生产日期,作为一个guideline,是人们习惯参考的一个标准而已,除了几类食品意外,FDA 并没有强硬要求。
唯一卖家可能出错的地方是:她说有生产日期,而买家收到上面没有,此为”售出物品与描述不符“,而看样子买家mm当时急于购买,也没有询问此方面问题,卖家也没有主动对生产日期进行任何描述
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/3 16:14:02编辑过]
以下是引用说你傻你就傻在3/3/2010 4:10:00 PM的发言:
怎么恶意揣测她都不为过?
至于不要恶意揣测别人,卖家首先卖了没有保质期的食物,无论是有意还是过失,她都已经错在先了,何况还是有money invovled, 她就已经失去了benefit of doubt了。不恶意揣测她是买家nice, 但买家没有责任对她nice,相反地,怎么恶意揣测她都不为过。
况且,卖家卖出了没有保质期的食物,在买家来沟通的时候,居然说不退不换,这就是NICE?
如果一个罪犯犯了一个应该判三年的罪,法庭”怎么恶意揣测他都不为过“,随手给判个三十年,对吗?
再说,我先前还没看法律部分,现在看了法律部分,卖家凭啥要退要换呢?除非卖家之前拍着胸脯说这上面有生产日期,属于”不符描述“。或者,发的不是小肥羊,而是小瘦羊。
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以下是引用dancingsnow在3/3/2010 4:16:00 PM的发言:
那你认为中国店不给退这种行为是正确的吗?
退货政策也没有正确与错误之分那你认为中国店不给退这种行为是正确的吗?
比如你上恶霸,各个卖家的return policy都不一样,你能说,这家比那家更好,因为return policy更宽松,但是你不能说这家是对的,那家是错的。有的人卖很紧俏的东西,就说好了卖什么样的就什么样,不work都不管,你要么就不买,要么买就认这个风险,买家除非是收到和描述不符的产品,比如说人家说是红色的,结果你收到是蓝色的,否则必须遵循商家的return policy。
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