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所以你觉得楼主起了个这么挑衅的标题是想看到理性的讨论的？

tiantian022 发表于 6/25/2016 9:17:37 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2031879&postid=72026310#72026310]

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I'm gona go out on a limb and assume the OP actually wants a meaningful discussion. Here's a list of reasons for you to beckon:

1. Take the threat of climate change seriously and support meaningful action to minimize the impacts.

2. Support the current path to normalizing relations with Iran and Cuba, and curtail any Iranian nuclear weapons ambitions through a negotiated regiment of inspections.

3. Support efforts to pass a constitutional amendment overturning Citizens United.
Nominate Justices to the Supreme Court who will protect women's reproductive freedoms, advance equal rights for gay people, ensure separation of church and state, support sensible gun laws, and support efforts to have the EPA regulate carbon emissions to combat climate change.

4. Oppose torture.

5. Support raising the minimum wage to above the poverty line.

6. Support public schools and support efforts to ensure that a college education is affordable to most Americans.（ 这点和希拉里对支持AA，在tweeter上的表态，是不是特定指的是 underrepresented group， 让华人子女在读书和就业上面对更加艰难的竞争？）

7. Support a robust safety net for the poorest among us. （ 这针对底层民众，没错， 不过这个safety net 指的是什么？ 需要多少税收来完成这个项目，税收从哪里来？ 对日益缩小的中产阶级有什么impact？）

8. Support bringing an end to the failed "war on drugs".

9. Support science and fund important scientific research.
不飞花 发表于 6/25/2016 10:11:40 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2031879&postid=72026652#72026652]

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For #1: I think Clinton is in support of a immigration reform that involves heightened boarder security and a path to citizenship , but not a blanket insurance of work permits. Correct me if I'm wrong.

For # 2: a couple things: the U.S. is a signer of the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, so in other words, we're obliged to consider asylum for refugees. Anyone who says we the US will categorically deny refugees is just wistful. About the funding, we spent 1.7 trillion on war in Iraq, compared to an estimated 1.6 billion spending on bringing additional 10k refugees. Yeah so we'd definitely have the money if we are not that war hawkish. That's one of the reasons that I'm not going to vote for Clinton because her war records.


不飞花 发表于 6/26/2016 12:17:03 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2031879&postid=72027374#72027374]

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Well said.

I would add one more important point I will vote for Clinton. She will substantially increase taxes for the rich, while Donald will do quite the opposite. Under Clinton's plan, individually earring over 5 million will pay a tax surcharge, while Donald will have individually earning more than150,000 pay the same income tax as himself.


lifessogood 发表于 6/26/2016 12:50:50 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2031879&postid=72027562#72027562]

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It is all in their tax proposals.

taxfoundation.org/comparing-2016-presidential-tax-reform-proposals

To me, Donald Trump's proposals are utterly irresponsible.

lifessogood 发表于 6/26/2016 1:02:39 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2031879&postid=72027634#72027634]

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我支持希拉里说到底因为右派这次没有出台合格的候选人



共和党历史上曾经连续执政12年，民主党再继续4年天不会塌。希望共和党能重振旗鼓选个更靠谱的上来。Trump上台变数太大，不会投他票。希拉里不perfect ,但远远好于Trump
真福神 发表于 6/26/2016 1:43:57 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2031879&postid=72027853#72027853]

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