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美国佛罗里达一家同性恋夜店发生枪击事件,刚刚更新说50个遇难,53受伤

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2016-06-12 11:03:54

每次发生这种事之后,民众无非是放点花点根蜡烛,然后遗忘,然后又发生 就没有政客和政府能采取点措施能减少点这种事发生,或发生了能减少点伤亡 大伙自求多福吧
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2016-06-12 11:13:28

这次怪不了枪了吧?被定性为恐怖袭击。恐怖分子就算禁枪也一样能弄到枪支。

得怪民主党,对绿教各种引进难民,不加约束。对同性恋各种支持和推崇。现在好了,绿教对同性恋可是容忍度为零,终于有绿教的爆发了。
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我最反对这种论调了,什么枪不杀人人杀人

美国每年死于枪杀的人居世界之首,这与枪支泛滥有莫大的关系
如果美国像中国严格控枪,哪怕像加拿大,欧洲那样控枪,将大大减少伤亡数
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2016-06-12 12:05:10

我也最反对这种论调了,什么控枪能大大减少伤亡数
要不要把各类化学物品电饭煲高压锅钉子啥的一起禁一禁

上海浦东机场发生疑似自制爆炸物爆炸事件
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富 发表于 6/12/2016 11:21:48 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2026162&postid=71913717#71913717]

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上海浦东机场这个事恰恰说明控枪的重要性,这个人是用酒瓶自制的爆炸物,如果他能轻易搞到枪,
那结果就不一样了

我不清楚这次奥兰多事件凶手背景(如果是恐袭那性质不同另说),他能黑市搞到枪不代表人人都能黑市搞到枪,
你一般人去中国搞支枪试试;像康州小学生被杀事件,如果严格控枪那个神经病
根本就不可能搞到枪,没有枪他手无缚鸡之力拿把刀去能行吗

不是说每次每个凶手都是因为枪,任何国家都不可能完全避免这种事,但是控枪的话好多事件能避免或减少伤亡,一般人恐怕可能连黑市在哪都不知道。

还有美国这平民能买到的枪可能比警察还先进,这是不是病态?
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2016-06-13 07:17:53

说这事与枪管没关系的睁大眼睛看看。虽然这事是恐袭性质,依然与枪支管控有很大关系。
病态的枪支文化病态的人!有恐怖嫌疑的人依然可以合法购得杀伤力很大的武器!


Omar Mateen Probed for Terror Ties but Legally Purchased Assault-style Weapons

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How does a man investigated by the FBI for possible links to terrorism buy an assault-style weapon in America? Easily.

Omar Mateen used a legally purchased AR-15-style weapon to massacre at least 50 people in an Orlando gay club early Sunday. The FBI had looked into him twice with inconclusive findings — not that a different result necessarily would have mattered.

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The American-born Mateen had security and firearm licenses and his guns were legally purchased within the past week.

In most states, people convicted of misdemeanor hate crimes may still legally purchase guns. That suspected terrorists can legally purchase weapons in the U.S. has been a fierce point of contention in Congress and among gun-control advocates.

FBI agents investigate the damaged rear wall of the Pulse Nightclub where Omar Mateen allegedly killed at least 50 people on June 12, 2016 in Orlando, Florida.
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FBI agents investigate the damaged rear wall of the Pulse Nightclub where Omar Mateen allegedly killed at least 50 people on June 12, 2016 in Orlando, Florida.
The Senate voted down an amendment in December that would block suspected terrorists from buying guns and explosives. The amendment, which needed 60 votes to pass due to procedural rules, failed 45-54. Five days later Senate Democrats tried and failed to force consideration of the bill.
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Gabby Giffords, the former U.S. representative who survived a 2011 mass shooting, referenced that vote in an impassioned statement following the Orlando attack.

"These actions may or may not have stopped last night's shooting, but we know they will save lives," she said.


In expressing her condolences to the people of Orlando, Giffords noted that "thoughts and prayers are not nearly enough" for those with "the power to act and save lives."
"The United States is the only advanced country in the world where these kinds of mass shootings happen with this kind of frequency," she said. "Enough is enough: Congress must act."

It was not immediately clear what if any watch list Mateen was on at the time of the Orlando massacre — though he had come across the FBI's radar on more than one occasion.
He first came to the FBI's attention in 2013 after co-workers reported he'd made "inflammatory" comments to them about radical Islamic propaganda.

A year later the FBI looked into him again because of his ties to an American who traveled to the Middle East to become a suicide bomber. Agents determined contact there was minimal and Mateen was not under surveillance on Sunday, when he carried out the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.

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Condolences for those affected by the massacre quickly mixed with condemnation about U.S. gun laws before the bodies were even counted.

"How obvious can it be that we have to ban assault weapons in our country," Rev. Nancy Wilson told a gathering in Orlando. "How obvious can it be?"

U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin said Congress "makes itself complicit" in mass killings by failing to enact change the laws.


"We have the power to act, and we must," Durbin said. "The bottom line is that we allow dangerous people to buy guns in America and that has got to change."

Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, stressed the need to keep "guns like the ones used" in Orlando out of terrorists' and criminals' hands.

"This is the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States and it reminds us once more that weapons of war have no place on our streets. "

To be legally barred from buying firearms for criminal activity, under federal law, an individual must be convicted of a felony.

Several Republican lawmakers responded to the Orlando massacre by stressing the threat of terrorism — not guns. Florida's Democratic Congressman Ted Deutch said the two are not mutually exclusive.

"The American people expect us to battle terrorism, stand with the LGBT community AND to address the gun violence epidemic that plagues the country. Silence is not an option," he said in a statement.

Deutch said that a moment of silence for the victims in Washington on Monday should "immediately" be followed by a vote to close the loophole.


"This isn't politics it's common sense," he added.

The front page of the New York Daily News issued a more pointed message.

"Thanks, NRA," it read. "Because of your continued opposition to an assault rifle ban, terrorists like this lunatic can LEGALLY buy a killing machine and perpetrate the worst mass shooting in U.S. history."
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2016-06-13 15:02:59

今天几只枪股竟大涨,我了了个去。其背后的逻辑是:因这次事件可能会加强枪控,所以疯狂的人赶紧疯狂买枪而推高短期需求。

nnd, 真邪恶啊。
其实这些人多虑了,这次事件后美国控枪依然是不可能的。军火商, NRA 等势力太大,政客们都不敢吱声
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2016-06-13 15:16:08

今天几只枪股竟大涨,我了了个去。其背后的逻辑是:因这次事件可能会加强枪控,所以疯狂的人赶紧疯狂买枪而推高短期需求。

nnd, 真邪恶啊。
其实这些人多虑了,这次事件后美国控枪依然是不可能的。军火商, NRA 等势力太大,政客们都不敢吱声





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