别的不做评论，就想说receipt只有item和价格估计很可能是把个人信息部分剪掉了，为了保护隐私很可以理解。但是在店里要退货什么的肯定是需要那部分条码之类的才能locate到订单信息，只有衣服和部分receipt不能locate很正常，并不代表这个衣服不是bg或者nm来的。另外nm确实很容易黑名单的。 希望圆满解决
comicmaggie 发表于 4/2/2015 1:35:02 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1805133&postid=66951004#66951004]

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也许是收件箱满了吧，或者试试paypal之类当时付款的email。祝早日顺利解决

comicmaggie 发表于 4/2/2015 1:40:47 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1805133&postid=66951043#66951043]

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LZ mm, check your msg pls.

MM, let's talk about the transaction history. First, I usually take Chase QP only, you said you only have Paypal. I accepted. You said you want the receipt. Ok. I gave it to you. Now you said you want my personal information and free return. No. I can't compromise on this.

mm你当时担心paypal不安全，等了一个星期钱款clear了才寄出得，我也是答应的，但是当时确实跟你提过我如果size不合适会推回NM，你是同意的吧？而且我昨天第一次联系你的时候你说让我换班卖掉或者寄回给你然后你再自己推掉。之后又说自己退太多不能退，所以我觉得你前后矛盾（能不能退NM）才对东西的真实性产生怀疑的。所有邮件记录我都有，我绝对不认为你有迁就我什么东西。至于个人信息，我的姓名住址电话乃至学校的邮箱我都发给你过证明身份的。

PS：无论咱们协商结果怎么样，我绝对不会猥琐的去找paypal要回钱，这点mm你绝对放心。我这点RP还是有的。正如我不敢确认这件大衣是否正品就不会在换班接着卖一样。

1. I don't think that is my responsibility to offer you a free return.

First, is this a defective item? No. I inspect all the details before I ship to you. It was in great condition. Second, is this against Huaren policy that I sell fake item? No. I bought this from BG and there is transaction record to prove my innocence. Third, is this against Huaren policy that I did not show the receipt? No, I not only showed the receipt when I posted it online. I gave you the actual receipt, which not many sellers can provide that.

Go check with Saks and see if you can get free return in your case.

请看我主贴，我之所以怀疑真实性（不是怀疑你mm，我是不想换班卖东西出问题）是昨天在NM等了一下午，确觉得你是前后矛盾的时候（寄回给你你退BG，你退太多不能退）。大件超过300本来就是需要有receipt的，我不觉得有问题。我们在讨论NM退货，你确说在说Saks，每家renturn policy 不一样的吧？我昨天短信过你了，BG的大妈告诉我退是OK的。但是receipt上写的时short popiln trench blk; black; 14; 383.00， 和大衣上的tag上的价格还有item name完全不一样，所以大妈需要购买人的信息去证实你是否买过这件商品。我可以理解online卖东西名字价签有可能不一样，但是NM的大妈不认啊？我也没法从他们那里获取任何是否正品的信息啊？

2. It has been months. If you want to return, why you didn't do it earlier.

If I want to return to BG, I would have done it earlier. Now it's been months. They will not be happy if I return this item. I had a warning letter from them saying that I can't return anymore. Otherwise, I am not allowed to buy from them. That was the reason I sold this. If I want to return it, I would have done that. Why brother to sell in Huaren.

我说过了，我在农村，最近的BG，NM也要开车五个小时，交易是在一月。我承认中间耽误了两个多月我自己拖延症不愿意网上退货，总觉得有机会去店里退货最保险。昨天我在NM等你答复等了一下午，我也跟你保证过如果我退货会说服他们把这次退货算在我头上。大妈没有保证成功，但是答应会帮我问问BG那边的人把这次算我头上。我却一直没等到你答复。

3. BG does not offer the return, not my fault.

I can't predict their policy and when it will be changed. I can't guarantee BG will offer a return on a product. This is something I can't control.

I believe I have done my due diligence on this transaction.

你多久联系不上她啊？你何时购买的？何时打算退的？要是不合适，你也应该第一时间通知对方啊，不应该等上month吧？

flyorange 发表于 4/2/2015 1:23:20 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1805133&postid=66954856#66954856]

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"大衣上的tag上的价格还有item name完全不一样" - Original price was higher and it was 70% off. How can it be the same?
"无法证明是同一件商品" - I gave you all I have. If you use this as an excuse to force me offer a free return to you, sorry. No.

I don't understand the BG and NM naming convention. I can't tell you what short or long format they use in their product description. I bought this from BG and it was the same product in the receipt.

"我在NM等你答复等了一下午, 我却一直没等到你答复。" - Go check your messages and time stamp. MM, there is something call personal integrity. Don't lie. Please.

I don't want to return because I am risking my personal credit to do this favor for you. But if you really really need, you ship back to me at your own cost. If the product is in returnable condition and NM accepts my return, I will offer you a refund.

We are all grown up. We need to be responsible what we have done. You can't just let someone pay for the decision you made. And you can't make up stories to accuse someone selling fake products. This is slander and I can sue you for that.

Anyway, I swear to God what I said above and have done regarding this transaction is all true.
cottonfield 发表于 4/2/2015 1:48:33 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1805133&postid=66955244#66955244]

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我觉得卖家完全没有错呀，凭啥过去一个多月的衣服，还要给你退呀?
crystalwu920 发表于 4/2/2015 1:54:46 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1805133&postid=66955334#66955334]

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