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看大家讨论回国养老 我就想问一个问题

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2017-05-22 11:45:42


绿卡离镜30天,SS 就停了.
marychung 发表于 5/22/2017 11:42:11 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887307#74887307]

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别造谣了好不好?SS官网都说了不用绿卡都能领,只要干满40个credits,你这个绿卡离境30天就停掉SS你给找个出处?
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2017-05-22 11:55:23

怎么查credit? 想看看攒够没


bella20152016 发表于 5/22/2017 11:49:06 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887364#74887364]

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去官网注册就能查。以前就有贴子讨论这个,我专门去官网认真的看了一下,发现大家对传说中的必须绿卡或者公民才能领SSN特别模糊,不清楚的建议大家一定去官网查,其他的小道消息一概不要信。
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2017-05-22 12:06:13


[url=https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10137.pdf]https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10137.pdf[/url]
非美国公民离境超过半年,要想再领ss benefit,必须回美国居住满至少一个月。
有不少国家的公民可以豁免这条,目前来说,我查的结果中国不在有协议的国家名单内。


Ruth 发表于 5/22/2017 11:57:08 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887422#74887422]

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If you are a citizen of one of thecountries listed in the chart below, wewill continue to pay your benefits outsidethe United States if:a) You are receiving benefits based onyour own earnings, and you earned atleast 40 credits under the U.S. SocialSecurity system or lived at least 10years in the United States; orb) You are receiving benefits asdependent or survivor of a workerwho earned at least 40 creditsunder the U.S. Social Securitysystem or lived in the United Statesfor at least 10 years. You mustalso meet the conditions underthe heading “Additional residencyrequirements for dependents andsurvivors” in this publication.• Afghanistan• Bangladesh• Bhutan• Botswana• Burma• Burundi• Cameroon• Cape Verde• CentralAfricanRepublic• Chad• China• Congo, Rep.of• Ethiopia• Fiji• Gambia• Ghana• Haiti• Honduras• India• Indonesia• Kenya• Laos• Lebanon• Lesotho• Liberia• Madagascar• Malawi• Malaysia• Mali• Mauritania• Mauritius8• Morocco• Nepal• Nigeria• Pakistan• Senegal• Sierra Leone• Singapore• SolomonIslands• Somalia• South Africa• Sri Lanka• Sudan• Swaziland• Taiwan• Tanzania• Thailand• Togo• Tonga• Tunisia• Uganda• Yemen(This list of countries is subject tochange. For the latest information,visit [url=www.socialsecurity.gov/international/countrylist4.htm]www.socialsecurity.gov/international/countrylist4.htm[/url] orcontact your nearest U.S. Social Securityoffice, U.S. Embassy, or U.S. consulate.)
这不写的清清楚楚中国公民只要干满40个点就可以领吗?你们都在看啥?
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2017-05-22 12:10:30


是的。悲催的中国公民不在豁免名单里。到时候绿卡拒绝入境,以前工作的credit就都打水漂了。

chengcheng 发表于 5/22/2017 11:59:29 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887446#74887446]

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有啥悲催的?请问你真的认真看条款了还是人云亦云?写的清清楚楚只要是自己的earning满40个点中国公民就可以领,真是不明白你悲在哪里。当然如果你把自己国籍从中国变朝鲜或者古巴那就真的悲催了。
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2017-05-22 12:26:00


你这一段前面还有条件的:

If you aren’t a U.S. citizen, you must meet one of the conditions for payment described in this publication.When we say you are “outside the United States,” we mean you aren’t in one of the 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, or American Samoa for at least 30 days in a row. We consider you to be “outside the United States” until you return and stay in the United States for at least 30 days in a row. If you aren’t a U.S. citizen, you also may have to prove you were lawfully present in the United States for that 30-day period. For more information, contact the nearest U.S.Social Security office, U.S. Embassy, orU.S. consulate.

If you aren’t a U.S. citizen or you do not meet one of the conditions for continued payments, we will stop your payments after you have been outside the United States for six full calendar months.Once this happens, we cannot start your payments again until you comeback and stay in the United States for a full calendar month.



chengcheng 发表于 5/22/2017 12:16:34 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887587#74887587]

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If you are a U.S. citizen, you maycontinue to receive payments outside theUnited States as long as you are eligiblefor payment and you are in a countrywhere we can send payments. If you 3aren’t a U.S. citizen, you must meet oneof the conditions for payment describedin this publication.When we say you are “outside theUnited States,” we mean you aren’tin one of the 50 states, the District ofColumbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. VirginIslands, Guam, the Northern MarianaIslands, or American Samoa for at least30 days in a row. We consider you tobe “outside the United States” until youreturn and stay in the United States forat least 30 days in a row. If you aren’t aU.S. citizen, you also may have to proveyou were lawfully present in the UnitedStates for that 30-day period. For moreinformation, contact the nearest U.S.Social Security office, U.S. Embassy, orU.S. consulate.If you aren’t a U.S. citizen or you do notmeet one of the conditions for continuedpayments, we will stop your paymentsafter you have been outside the UnitedStates for six full calendar months.Once this happens, we cannot startyour payments again until you comeback and stay in the United States for afull calendar month. MM你真的不读后面的内容吗?这里讲的是如果你不meet one of the conditions,那么就stop payments,可是后面不是贴了这个那个的conditions吗?中国不是在conditions的4里面吗?你做题目都是只读前面不管后面吗?
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2017-05-22 12:28:39


你这一段前面还有条件的:

If you aren’t a U.S. citizen, you must meet one of the conditions for payment described in this publication.When we say you are “outside the United States,” we mean you aren’t in one of the 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, or American Samoa for at least 30 days in a row. We consider you to be “outside the United States” until you return and stay in the United States for at least 30 days in a row. If you aren’t a U.S. citizen, you also may have to prove you were lawfully present in the United States for that 30-day period. For more information, contact the nearest U.S.Social Security office, U.S. Embassy, or U.S. consulate.

If you aren’t a U.S. citizen or you do not meet one of the conditions for continued payments, we will stop your payments after you have been outside the United States for six full calendar months.Once this happens, we cannot start your payments again until you come back and stay in the United States for a full calendar month.


你对“outside the United States”的理解不对。这个不是说随便在境外呆多久都没关系,而指的是你出境不超过6个月,回美国呆至少一个月。这个跟保持绿卡的有效性要求一致。
问题是即使在境外呆不超过6个月,回来的时候入境官以某种理由拒绝你入境,那就没有办法满足这个条件了。后果自己想吧。

所以我的理解是,绿卡在境外不超过6个月,可以继续领,超过6个月,不回来呆至少一个月,就没了。



chengcheng 发表于 5/22/2017 12:16:34 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887587#74887587]

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你mark的红字部分是给你解释什么叫outside the united states,不是conditions,conditions在后面。
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2017-05-22 12:42:16


对,所有后面的的conditions,都是在这个特殊的"outside the united states"的定义基础上展开的。这个 "outside the united states",根本不是我们大家平时所理解的。

chengcheng 发表于 5/22/2017 12:37:39 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887786#74887786]

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What’s insideIntroduction 1Countries to which wecan’t send payments 1What happens to yourright to Social Securitypayments when you areoutside the United States 2Conditions for payments tocontinue to non-U.S. citizenswhile outside the United States 4
这有什么难理解的?你看目录那一页,大标题是很清楚了啊。没人说中国公民在美国境外不是outside the united states啊,判断出来了outside the united states只要meet其中一个condition就可以了啊,中国公民就是condition 4,这个很难理解吗?我怎么觉得很好理解啊,比GRE GMAT容易多了。
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2017-05-22 12:48:38


算了,不跟你争了。连GRE GMAT都扯出来了。
chengcheng 发表于 5/22/2017 12:45:28 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2170781&postid=74887854#74887854]

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你认为你的对就你的对吧。只是希望版上其他朋友别被误导以为回国了就领不到。至少目前的政策是可以,将来会不会有变化nobody knows
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