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俄乌巴赫穆特战场情况(5/19最新更新)

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2023-05-13 14:51:49

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三架直升机和两架战斗机,感觉像是防空系统被黑了

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2023-05-13 14:57:38

早呢,这种两边几个村子里打的有来有回的仗不具备战略意义。乌克兰新编的十个全北约装备的突击旅现在还在德国和波兰境内训练,什么时候进入了前线才能看出双方真正的成色。俄军现在各方势力互相掣肘拆台,情况不乐观
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2023-05-16 20:07:06

最新的情况:部署在基辅的美国爱国者导弹防御系统被俄罗斯的高超音速导弹“匕首”给击中了。俄方的说法是彻底击毁了爱国者系统,美方的说法只是damage了系统,具体受损程度有待评估。


US assessing potential damage of Patriot missile defense system following Russian attack near Kyiv

From CNN's Natasha Bertrand

A US-made Patriot system was likely damaged, but not destroyed, as the result of a Russian missile barrage in and around Kyiv early Tuesday morning local time, a United States official tells CNN.

The US is still assessing the extent of the damage, the official said. That will determine whether the system needs to be pulled back entirely or simply repaired on the spot by the Ukrainians.

Russia’s Defense Ministry said on Tuesday in a post on Telegram that “a high-precision strike by the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system in the city of Kyiv hit a US-made Patriot anti-aircraft missile system.”

Ukrainian officials said on Tuesday that they successfully intercepted all six hypersonic missiles fired by the Russians, but the Ukrainian military declined to comment on the Russians’ claim that a Patriot system was hit.

“We cannot comment on this. We'll stay out of commenting on Russian sources,” Ukrainian air force spokesperson Serhiy Ihnat said.

Ukraine currently has two Patriot air defense systems in the country, one donated by the US and the other donated jointly by Germany and the Netherlands. It is unclear which of those systems was potentially damaged.

Some context: Russia has targeted the systems with hypersonic missiles before, US officials told CNN last week, including once on May 4. That attack failed, and Ukrainians successfully intercepted the missile before it could hit the Patriot, the officials said. 

But US officials believe the Russians have been able to pick up on signals that are emitted from the Patriot, allowing them to target the system using the hypersonic missile, known as the Kinzhal or Killjoy.


blueskyt 发表于 2023-05-16 16:52

一个爱国者系统包含十几辆车,分散在好几平方公里范围内,怎么可能一次全部击毁

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2023-05-17 00:40:54

乌克兰有两套Patriot system

其中一套因为导弹打光了受到损害

另外一套没有问题


mitbbs9 发表于 2023-05-16 23:13

不是打光,而是被无人机,口径巡航导弹和匕首联合起来饱和攻击了,说明一套爱国者系统能够同时应对的上限大概就是十几个目标。


看视频最后一发拦截弹在低空爆炸,紧接着地面出现爆炸,说明没能将导弹完全摧毁,然后导弹残骸在发射车附近爆炸了


不过爱国者值钱的是雷达车和指挥车,被击伤一辆发射车补充起来没那么困难

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2023-05-17 10:49:44

一般导弹都是对着雷达发射车的,因为能捕捉到雷达发射信号。爱国者系统雷达是发射接收分开的还是一体的我懒得查了。


睿 发表于 2023-05-17 07:21


爱国者系统是这样的,车和车之间隔了好几公里,网上流传的视频只能看到导弹发射的位置,网上流传的视频里面30发导弹应该是来自两台发射车,雷达车离的还很远




今天美国方面派专家检查,爱国者系统受到轻微损伤可以继续运行,应该就是我说的,视频里面最后一发低空拦截的导弹残骸在发射车附近炸了



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2023-05-19 14:17:11

https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1659585103977238529


華爾街日報報導,烏軍目前壓箱底仍有約二十個旅尚未投入戰鬥,仍在訓練攻堅戰術

烏軍希望俄軍在巴赫姆特消耗到力竭,再發動反攻


烏軍軍情局下轄的Artan營就是其中一個預備隊的營,去年夏季從70人擴充至350人,

只有五分之一的人員有服役經驗,包含一些近期才從其他單位轉調來的人

烏軍軍情局的特戰部隊過往極度難以加入,但是目前稍微降低門檻以便大肆招兵買馬


Artan營去年曾參加哈爾科夫作戰;今年大部分在訓練,也有兩度派人支援巴赫姆特

該營三月派去巴赫姆特支援的62人,有一人陣亡、27人受傷(已有11人康復歸隊)

Artan營裝備精良(M4、熱像儀、Glock 17),訓練也很精實(每天打靶400發)



mise88 发表于 2023-05-19 14:00

怎么这么多?本来我记得美国泄露的情报里面乌军反攻是十个新编的突击旅

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2023-05-19 14:22:01

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最新消息,瓦格纳经过48小时不间断的血战又打下了儿童医院和巴赫穆特工业学院,现在乌军只控制着1-2%的巴赫穆特市区。不出意外的话48小时内瓦格纳将占领整个巴赫穆特城区。

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2023-05-19 14:25:08

另外昨天在马林卡附近,俄军疑似一次性报废了十几辆T90,网图不是很清楚,具体型号和损失情况待确认


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2023-05-19 16:28:04

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这是什么记性?去年的夏季反攻和秋季反攻确实发生了啊,俄军在伊久姆,红利曼和赫尔松连续三场大败,精锐空降兵的尸体丢在大街上让猪啃,普京紧急动员30万人才稳住局势。我们可以等等看,今年乌克兰反攻之后普京又要回去摇多少人来

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2023-05-19 18:12:04

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Russian damage to US-made Patriot system in Ukraine was 'minor' and it has already been fixed, Pentagon says


https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-damage-us-made-patriot-system-ukraine-minor-fixed-pentagon-2023-5?amp


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