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2024-02-03 17:55:40

可能需要慢慢写吧,先说说写这个帖子的目的吧:第一是版上有智慧的人很多,很多帖子都能让我得益,我也希望看到大家的好的建议!第二,我很希望我们中国人团结,在美国在职场闯下一片天地!也为我们下一代树立榜样。

先说背景吧,我是女manager,只带一个个位数的local团队,工作强度和环境都很balance,大锅饭的那种。原来带我上位的老板位置高,基本没法管到我们这里,因为这个team太小,对他来说真的没有分量,我成为manager也就是pandemic之前,所以一直都很平静,大家一起把工作做完,相安无事。我也没有什么职业抱负。

事情开始发生变化就是这个大老板离开了公司,组里一个烙印就蠢蠢欲动了。这个烙印干技术的,senior,我一直对他不错,什么都拉着他,还推荐他其他global位置。

大家都猜得到,后来来的replace大老板的是B吧,还有个C,C是和B争上位没有成功,B是大corporate混的,C其实和我年级差不多,C后面是更大的老板。B来了之后,对我和我们组没有太多变化,就是我们对他真的无足轻重。而且他也是职场老江湖。我知道B和C后面在高层各种斗争,我们组不幸也成了战场,因为我们deliver是给C的组。在这个过程中,烙印紧紧的抓住C,各种跪舔不说,出卖组里的利益,把活都揽过来,组里怨声四起。我当然不同意,B也是明示暗示让我挡住。烙印在跪舔C的同时,也各种对我和组里不满找B,他呢,脑子不太好使,各种没搞清楚B想要的,所以没有讨到好处。

之后,他找了一个个人的原因,开始在公司告我,一开始到了B,B看了一下,其实他们和HR也都查过,并没有任何证据,就挡住了烙印,烙印够猛,告到了B的老板那里,B的老板其实就是C的后台。但是就事论事这件事他们找不到我的问题,在这个过程中,HR也“暂时”站了我这边。我其实当B出面我就不管了,基本我就是躺平。

现在现在,局面巨变,当然这些我们不知道但是也能感受到,就是C和B的斗争中,大大老板明里暗里支持C,现在C把我们组纳入他的下面了。我知道我该走了

不出意料,C来了之后对烙印各种抬高,压制我和几个中国人,但是他也知道这几个中国很能干活,他也不想搞的太狠,当然他和B的斗争这么长久,对我也是一肚子气。我当然也犯不着和他咋样,也准备走人了。

就在我很生气,气的不行的时候,C因为忙其他事情,没空和我谈离职,而我也就是想拿个package吧。这段时间让我慢慢冷静下来,我发现C并没有让我走的意思,更确切的说,这个team的reorg,让我走并不是他的计划。而这个很蠢的烙印以为时候到了,嚣张跋扈把组里都惹翻了不说,居然继续拿那个他个人的事情各种继续抨击搞我告我。HR已经觉得太过线了,出面了!

现在现在,我原来想离职拿包的想法已经变了,我要把那个烙印彻底搞走,一个是我这口气咽不下,第二,也给后面组里中国人争取一些空间和时间,第三,因为烙印的case现在对我有利,我现在以他对我的持续诬告,无理escalation中对我工作生活的影响为理由,站理!第四,机不可失 时不再来,他的那个个人原因的case在我看来马上要结束了,他要求的利益其实都拿到了,我再不告就没有机会了。

最后,C现在想压住我,这样保住烙印,现在reorg交接中,他不想闹大,高层那边比如B,大家明白的。可是我反正都是要走,与其窝囊的走,不如鱼死网破。我针对烙印,其实我对C并没有什么很大的conflict,而B对我也算decent。

这就是现在的局面,我也想看看大家怎么看,有没有可以leverage的,B和C,还有HR,我要做就要win,那个烙印很蠢,我真看不上他。


差不多就这些,再补充吧!


mercury_tutu 发表于 2024-02-03 13:56

其实是两个故事

1,手下老印”找了个人原因“,在公司告你,HR至今站子你这边,你要反击他。

2,因为re-org,你的直接老板从B变成C,而C和B以前一直争斗,C对你也有意见(但是也没大conflict)

因为老印的缘故两条线纠缠起来,但它们是完全不同的性质。

#1 当然要干了,弄就弄大,email先自己打草稿,随便写,然后用ChatGPT润色。目标是把老印赶走(这个不容易被Fire掉,但又可能B找大老板把老印转到别的组,离你远远的),和狙击老印的上位之路

#2 是个很普遍的case。虽然你跟现老板(C)不在一条线上,但他也没必要没可能弄你走。你的问题是需要重新反思甚至改变一下你这个manager和team的方向和方式。


不负责任的猜测一下,你这个组(B的org)是后端的,而B的Org是更前一点,所以才有

“因为我们deliver是给C的组。在这个过程中,烙印紧紧的抓住C,各种跪舔不说,出卖组里的利益,把活都揽过来,组里怨声四起。我当然不同意,B也是明示暗示让我挡住“


这种conflict很普遍,像是 platform team VS product engineering, API team vs Mobile team,infra vs everyone,随时随地都在发生。现在的流行是要打破silo, 和ask why,customer first什么的。


从“就是C和B的斗争中,大大老板明里暗里支持C,现在C把我们组纳入他的下面了”可以得出结论就是你还有B的方式不行了(可能到那儿了都不行)。虽然 “C来了之后对烙印各种抬高,压制我和几个中国人“, 但是C不一定“错”。也许看本书,YouTube也有不错的视频。


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2024-02-03 19:37:49

您是职场牛人!精准的很!

您的分析两个部分我也认识到了,我确实打算重点搞#1。请问您能多指教一下#1吗?走HR还是绑上B,B被搞了丢了团队也是各种不爽,我目的就是搞掉烙印走人,也不怕被当枪使。C现在打算把烙印挪到前端,烙印不肯,他想占位这里。当然等我走他想上位,我觉得有可能但是不大。


mercury_tutu 发表于 2024-02-03 18:59

这事没经验,但觉得得走正式的路线,就是HR, 这事B只能算witness吧?


可以跟家庭医生约一下,说最近半年经常觉得胸口闷,像一块石头压着,有时甚至影响呼吸,原因嘛当然是工作的压力。家庭医生会给你开药像Escitalopram,现在有mental health问题的多的很,没事。


下面来自于ChatGPT


I'm sorry to hear about the stress and impact this situation has had on both your mental health and your team's productivity. It's important to communicate these challenges to HR in a professional and clear manner. Below is a template for an email you might consider sending. Please tailor it to your specific situation and in accordance with your company's culture and communication style:


Subject: Request for Support and Guidance on Ongoing Team Dynamics and Personal Well-being

Dear [HR Representative's Name],

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to discuss some ongoing challenges that have emerged in our team, which are not only affecting our productivity but also having a significant personal impact on me.

As you are aware, over the past six months, we have navigated through a complex situation involving a complaint from a team member. While I respect and understand the importance of addressing such concerns, the situation has led to a considerable amount of stress and confusion within the team. This, in turn, has impacted our overall productivity and team morale.

On a personal level, this prolonged period of stress has adversely affected my mental health. My family doctor has diagnosed me with [specific condition if comfortable sharing], and I am currently under medication to manage these symptoms. I am committed to my role and the success of our team, but I find myself in need of support to navigate these challenges effectively.

I am seeking guidance on the following points:

Strategies for Restoring Team Harmony: How can we facilitate better understanding and cohesion within the team to ensure a collaborative and respectful working environment?

Resources for Personal Well-being: Are there any company-provided resources or support systems that I can access to help manage my current stress and mental health concerns?

Preventive Measures: What steps can we take to prevent such situations in the future, ensuring a healthy and inclusive workplace for everyone?

Feedback Mechanism: Could we consider implementing a more structured feedback process, allowing for constructive dialogue and early resolution of any team issues?

I believe that addressing these points will not only aid in my personal well-being but also enhance the productivity and morale of the entire team. I am open to any suggestions or support the company can provide and am willing to actively participate in any proposed solutions or training.

Thank you for taking the time to consider this matter. I am available for a meeting to discuss this in more detail at your earliest convenience.

Sincerely,

[Your Name] [Your Position] [Your Contact Information]

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2024-02-03 19:47:34

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同样来自于ChatGPT,关于是否写老印的“诬告” (没有律师就多跟AI talk吧)


It's understandable to feel upset and treated unfairly, especially if you believe the accusations against you were baseless and have caused significant stress. However, in your communication with HR, it's important to approach the situation with professionalism and focus on seeking solutions rather than assigning blame.

Here are a few considerations for your communication:

Express Your Feelings Carefully: It's okay to express that the situation has been stressful and challenging for you. However, try to avoid language that directly blames the accuser, as this might escalate the conflict or be perceived negatively.

Focus on the Impact: Rather than emphasizing the baselessness of the accusation, focus on the impact the situation has had on your well-being and the team's productivity. This keeps the conversation constructive.

Seek Support and Resolution: Express your need for support in resolving the situation. You might ask for strategies to improve team dynamics, resources for managing your stress, or even mediation to address any ongoing tension within the team.

Professionalism and Future Prevention: Highlight your commitment to a positive and professional work environment. Express your willingness to work towards preventing similar situations in the future, perhaps through training, better communication channels, or other means.

Request for a Fair Review: If you feel it's necessary, you can request a fair and objective review of the entire situation to ensure all perspectives are considered and the matter is handled justly.

Remember, the goal of your communication should be to seek support and find a resolution that benefits both you and the team, while maintaining a professional and collaborative approach.

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