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Huaren
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IOWA Harris 领先的细节数据分析

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2024-11-03 01:42:13

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/02/iowa-poll-kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-2024-presidential-race/75354033007/

Harris leads in Ann Selzer's final Iowa poll by 3 points. Selzer is one of the most accurate pollsters in the country. Selzer's previous poll in September showed Turmp up by 4 points, meaning a flip of 7 points. In 2020 Selzer was the outlier saying that Trump was up 7% when other pollsters were saying it was tied or even showed Biden leading. Trump won Iowa in 2020 by 8.2%.

Political junkies were keeping their eyes peeled for this poll, saying that if Trump was up anywhere from 1-4% it would be a Harris over-performance.

Results of the poll:

Harris 47%

Trump 44%

Kennedy 3%

Not sure 3%

Don't want to say 2%

Someone else 1%

Most shockingly with this poll, Harris leads senior voters. Senior men prefer Harris by 47% to 45%, while senior women prefer Harris by a whopping 2-1 margin of 63% to 28%. Independent women choose Harris by a 28 point margin while Trump has a smaller majority with Independent men with a 10 point margin.

Harris has 97% of the Democratic vote share, 0% for Trump. While Trump has only 89% of the Republican vote share while Harris has 5% of Republicans defecting to her.


Another shocking aspect of this poll is Harris doing better with voters 55 and up (51%-39% in favor of Harris) when compared to voters 18-34 (46%-44% in favor of Harris) and voters 35-55 (50%-42% in favor of Trump).

Harris leads with women voters 56% to 36%. Trump still holds onto Men (52% to 38%), Evangelicals (73% to 20%), and rural voters (55% to 35%), and those living in towns (49% to 40%). Harris carries those living in cities (61% to 33%) and the suburbs (59% to 36%). 

Trump leads voters without college degrees by 51% to 39% while Harris leads amongst college degree-holders 61% to 31%.

Even if all the "Other", "someone else", and "didn't want to say" move 100% to Trump, it would still be an under-performance of his 2016 and 2020 numbers. Even adding the Kennedy voters to that number would still be an under-performance for Trump.


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pavestone

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2024-11-03 01:46:46

要去投票,去投票!就几天选举结果就出来了,还看什么劳什子民调

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fino819

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2024-11-03 03:35:54

没错,去投票才是关键。不要把自己和自己孩子的命运交给别人决定。
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2024-11-03 03:38:54

Trump leads voters without college degrees by 51% to 39% while Harris leads amongst college degree-holders 61% to 31%.


可以看到川粉的主要组成部分,不少川粉看不懂这句话吧



狂热的神经质的川粉挺多的

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feifeiduan

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2024-11-03 03:45:05

这个民调这么准啊???


拭目以待

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lp005520

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2024-11-03 04:56:55

转微博


今天大选最重要的新闻无疑是Ann Selzer Poll结果,这个结果今天像一个重磅炸弹,引起了巨大反响。Ann Selzer是个个体pollster(民调专家),不依赖于机构。她被誉为是美国大选poll中最准确的。她不做全国poll,每次大选前只做一个poll,只做Iowa(爱荷华)一个州的poll。她是PhD,也做过538节目。


为什么Iowa一个poll很重要呢?Iowa曾经是美国最有大选风向标性的摆动州,因此在2024年大选前也是每次大选启动的标志(Iowa caucuses)。2008年她的poll显示Obama将在Iowa caucuses取得压倒性胜利。2012年大选她的poll显示Obama:Romney在Iowa为49: 45%,最终Obama在大选中在Iowa领先了Romney 5.8%。四年后的2016年11月大选前,Ann Selzer Poll显示Trump在Iowa领先7%,最终Trump领先了Hillary 9.4%。她成为了当年唯一一个poll结果正确的pollster。2020年,她的poll显示Trump领先Biden 7%,最终结果Trump领先8.2%。所以,几乎Ann Selzer每次poll都是正确的,都在误差范围内,而且她的结果与全国民意(尤其是中西部民意)有十分好的相关性。


几小时前刚刚公布的Ann Selzer poll显示Harris:Trump为47: 44%,领先了3个百分点。这个消息震动了美国媒体。这是因为,首先,Ann Selzer poll非常精确,因为她是Iowa本地人,她只poll Iowa。第二,已经有几次,Ann Selzer力排众议,推出了一个和他人不同的结果,最终被验证正确。但更重要的是,这说明其他pollster通过polling和建模预测的三个tipping point states(最关键摆动州)PA/WI/MI可能是错的,这可能又成了2016年大选一样,那一年几乎所有pollster都认为FL/OH/IA/NC是tipping point states,导致了Hillary竞选几乎没有去最终真正决定大选的PA/WI/MI竞选。而今天这一结果如果像原来一样可信,那么它说明今年可能是2008年的情况,而其他pollster通过增加R选民比重来建模的方法是错误的(http://t.cn/A6ninzCn)。Iowa是一个白人比例很高的州,占总人口88%。这个poll显示Harris在65岁以上白人女性中领先Trump 40%。这说明了Dobbs Decision(废除堕胎权)这种反常识的事情非常引起普通女性选民反感,包括很多老年保守女性。


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2024-11-03 05:22:11

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AlwaysHopeful

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2024-11-03 05:26:36

18-24这么小的区别是最让人心寒的部分,social media上的alpha bros对young men的影响太大了。

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asvs

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2024-11-03 06:21:18

不出奇


早投结果 55%女性 45%男性


跟多次Polls 一样,女性大多投哈里斯

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flyinthewind2012

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2024-11-03 06:25:08

看来这次哈里斯会大赢了。

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